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Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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> Conde Nast CMS

> they are partnering with political activists to block sites that they deem to be "fake news."

> I'm a pretty heavy user of Chrome profiles .. definitely doesn't feel as well thought out in Firefox.

... and any extension incompatibility complaints

These are kind of secondary, or have little to do with the new browser itself. They are not really an argument against an everyday tool that is faster, more customizable and more practical out of the box.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #43

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Why not use your package manager?

Interesting! Didn't realize Ubuntu had included it already. I almost always assumed Ubuntu package manager is always behind by a few versions (like it is for everything else).

for firefox there is really not any other way, because security updates are not backported. So either you have (ubuntu, ...) to pick latest or ancient ESR.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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> I can't use the Conde Nast CMS in anything other than Chrome, so I can't switch completely. Highlight of the article tucked in at the end there.

I always wondered why they branded Chromecast with Chrome, it has almost nothing to do with a browser besides the funny gimmick where you could show a web page through it. Maybe an implementation detail. I suppose I get it now. It was originally just branding to promote a Chrome monopoly, and now it's an artificial exclusive feature. I love the idea of Chromecast but it's sad that it's still so closed off.

Also Google is just sort of terrible at consistent branding.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Fake news sites (real fake news, not how Trump uses it) are malware for the mind. These are things that are 100% fictional and made up to deceive readers for clicks.

> "real fake news" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope or (to play coy): you're suggesting we block fiction from the internet...?

Even in America, there has always been certain material that was rendered unavilable by legal action. Usually the big hammer was reserved for child porn, but there have been other cases.

Remember also that almost everyone selects their email provider precisely because they don't want to see everything - they want someone to take care of the spam for them. Popup blocking, ad blocking, and now it seems some sort of "clickbait"/"fake news"/"russian troll" blocking is going to be popular.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #80

I find something is off with Firefox Quantum, possibly the font rendering and it hurts my eyes. Running Chrome 62 on OSX 10.11.6 and it is fine. I had similar problems with Chrome on Windows after they implemented DirectWrite with anti aliasing.

I feel the same too!

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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post #84

I'm surprised at the success of Mozilla's PR push for this. It seems the time is right for this. Probably helps that tech sites seem to compete to have an article on every "current" topic.

It helps if your claims on the product are legit. My Facebook feed (the tech related people) exploded when the new version came out.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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After years of being a Chrome user, I've been trying to work myself off of Google's infrastructure as much as possible. Firefox is great, but I was very disappointed to learn that they are partnering with political activists to block sites that they deem to be "fake news." Edit: makeee below posted a good source describing what Mozilla is currently doing, which appears to be limited to "researching" the problem of fa…

I don't think Mozilla has ever said we're blocking fake news in Firefox.

Mozilla is doing research into this, and may eventually release some tooling for this (an addon or something). But we don't even help block ads in the browser, I doubt this will be built in.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Oh, that's great news. Blocking fake news sources would get me to try to switch some relatives back over to Firefox.

I simply don't want the technology I use to be the arbiter of information. Teaching people to discern quality sources for themselves is far better IMO.

Where does it say that Mozilla is going to do this?

As it stands you're spreading FUD.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

#100
Now if they only did respect user privacy!

Still every Firefox user gets a never-expiring google cookie by default, a practice that is going on now for many years! Also cookies are accepted from everywhere and last forever by default without user consent, overriding the freedom of internet users in a brutal and privacy destroying way.

It is a great bigbrotheristic marketing lie by mozilla to obscure this anti-privacy behaviour with glorious blabla about how they respect privacy, when in fact they help the trackers to track you even better, doing so since many years.

Cookie privacy must be handled more restrictive by default, e.g. there is no reason to save any cookie after the browser has been closed if user did not explicitely set that for a site.

Hopefully some journous finally check the facts before mindless re-babbling of mozilla propaganda.

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