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Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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I think browser makers (or whoever it needs to be) should offer an option to save battery over a little bit of extra bandwidth. Maybe even make it the default.

youtube's logic selects the codec, not the browser

Not if the browser only advertises support for the one it wants YouTube to pick.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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I'm surprised at the success of Mozilla's PR push for this. It seems the time is right for this. Probably helps that tech sites seem to compete to have an article on every "current" topic.

It's good to see Mozilla's ramped up PR, but given how deeply entrenched Chrome is, I doubt it will be enough. That is why we developers, if we support Firefox's/Mozilla's mission, must make it our goal to spread the word. I'm setting a personal goal to let 5 (non-tech) people (mostly in my family) know about this.

I've only seen tech articles/blog posts for Mozilla's PR, so while that is great, they may need to expand their efforts to include the general public. Chrome did speed-test television ads [0] like, Is Chrome faster than a potato cannon? that were appealing to a general audience. Not suggesting Mozilla do this. Perhaps reaching out to universities and school districts to adopt Firefox as their default browser? At my university if you went on a public computer all it had on the desktop was Chrome, so guess what people are going to use, not only on school computers but on their personal devices? The same is true for my high school.

I commend Mozilla for their giant task at hand, taking on such a technological behemoth that has uncountable benefits when it comes to advertising their browser.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCgQDjiotG0

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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The welcome resurgence of Firefox makes Apple’s ban on third party browser engines on iOS even less justifiable. This is about control, not security.

It does give them enviable control, but the security is a valid point. A browser engine has a wide surface area for attack vectors as it features multiple parsers and a JS engine.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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I'm surprised at the success of Mozilla's PR push for this. It seems the time is right for this. Probably helps that tech sites seem to compete to have an article on every "current" topic.

Mozilla is running Firefox adverts in my city. I don't remember seeing browser adverts since the initial chrome push.

It would be fascinating to know if Mozilla's financing model makes advertising a no-brainer, i.e. the cost of switching 1,000 users is more/less than the search bar revenue from 1,000 users.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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'DOM' panel in FF DevTools unfortunately still doesn't distinguished between inbuilt native DOM nodes and custom DOM nodes from JS code - making the DOM panel still completely useless. Firebug grouped non-native DOM nodes (the interesting ones for devs) and sorted them on top, and marked them in bold font - non of these is in the new FF. Until DOM panel still a work-in-progress, I cannot switch. I still keep a Firebu…

> inbuilt native DOM nodes and custom DOM nodes from JS code What does that mean? What are "inbuilt native" DOM nodes, or "custom DOM nodes"?

The DOM "proper" (created by markup or user agent) and the global JavaScript scope.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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The welcome resurgence of Firefox makes Apple’s ban on third party browser engines on iOS even less justifiable. This is about control, not security.

It does give them enviable control, but the security is a valid point. A browser engine has a wide surface area for attack vectors as it features multiple parsers and a JS engine.

It's taken from the same playbook as their refusal to support open video codecs in WebRTC. Apple is the new IBM, using money and market share to keep out challengers. If Steve Jobs were getting started today we'd have a picture of him standing in front of the Apple logo giving it the finger.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Firefox is actually the only software where I've reviewed the privacy settings when asked and allowed it to send more information than the default setting to the vendor. Because Mozilla.

How about sending the URLs you visit? This could actually happen to you, since you likely live in Germany based on your comments: http://www.zdnet.com/article/firefox-tests-cliqz-engine-whic...

1. Chances are 1 in a 100 by default.

2. Chances are significantly lower considering that this collaboration started only recently on the new installs from the website. Judging by his comment, I don't think he's a new Firefox user.

Of course, the chance is still there, but I would argue that it's low enough to be negligible, at least for him.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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It reminds me of Phoenix (to become Firefox), and how much of an improvement it was over the Mozilla browser. It makes me wonder where things went wrong, as I recall the Firefox of ~2005 being snappier than the one of ~2015. The only discrete drop in performance that I can remember was the addition of the AwesomeBar (which was worth it, but it really annoyed me at the time that just typing in an address became sluggi…

> It makes me wonder where things went wrong, as I recall the Firefox of ~2005 being snappier than the one of ~2015. If you visit any page made in 2005 with any recent browser it will be unbelievably fast. Pages became more bloated in the last decade because they could.

first releases of firefox were also pretty bare. in a good way, it didn't do much but did everything I, as a coder, wanted. Now think about devtools and live customization .. and every other bits added.
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