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Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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I would like to see more researches on ketosis diet. Seen by medicine as something that occurs when in starvation, I see it as the natural state of the human body. I eat once a day and I don't feel like I'm starving. And when I eat I don't feast.

Ketosis can be very hard on the kidneys, so I find it hard to believe that it should be the natural state of the human body.

Can you elaborate that?

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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There was no fat to remove from pasta sauce. Maybe they also figured out that sugar was addictive and added it everywhere to sell even more food with sugar?

There's a term in the industry that's used for the amount of sugar that makes a food tastier/more addictive while not making it too sweet, don't remember what it is though. But yeah, it's like you said, they add it to everything to make it better tasting and more addictive. There was some lab-rat study super long ago where they got mice/rats addicted to sugar and cocaine, then let them pick between the two - and they…

The term is 'Bliss Point' in case anyone was wondering.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bliss_point_(food)

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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I started the keto diet with intermittent fasting about a month ago. Lost 13kg, doesn't have cravings anymore, doesn't feel hungry all the time, and it's easier now to consentrate, fall asleep and wake up. Defenetly feels like carbohydrates/sugar is poison.

Keto diet is terrible for you. You are losing weight because you are sick. It's the refined carbs and sugar that are not good, you just need to get them from whole sources with the fiber and all.

If you interpret no longer being on cholesterol medication, high blood pressure medication, PPI's, along with no longer having elevated AST/ALT levels and elevated triglyceride levels, then yes, I guess I'm terribly sick - for over 3 years now.

Stick to what you know because nutrition is not it.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Ketosis can be very hard on the kidneys, so I find it hard to believe that it should be the natural state of the human body.

Can you elaborate that?

Eating an elevated amount of proteins on the often recommended ketonic diets (high protein, low carb) makes your kidneys work harder to process this elevated level of protein, expelling more sodium, calcium and potassium, which also increases the risk of kidney stones.

If you're in really good health before you start a ketonic diet, it's probably not too much of an issue. But if you have an underlying kidney condition already, it could exacerbate that condition and possibly lead to kidney damage or failure. If you are diabetic, in the worst case it could lead to ketoacidosis and coma, and potentially be life threatening.

Add to this that apparently most of the dramatic weight loss seen on a ketonic diet is simply water weight, in some cases people also start losing muscle. That's not what you want, obviously. A ketonic diet is a really poor choice for someone who wants to put on muscle.

There are better and significantly less dangerous ways to lose weight.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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I don't really understand - what's the catch?

Some other day I've heard the news they were sponsoring research that fat makes you fat.

Capitalism baby - profit for shareholders - we need https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_bottom_line so that it is legally OK not to harm people.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Can you elaborate that?

Eating an elevated amount of proteins on the often recommended ketonic diets (high protein, low carb) makes your kidneys work harder to process this elevated level of protein, expelling more sodium, calcium and potassium, which also increases the risk of kidney stones. If you're in really good health before you start a ketonic diet, it's probably not too much of an issue. But if you have an underlying kidney conditio…

High protein intake shouldn't be a recommended keto diet, because the body will use gluconeogenesis to process protein into glucose, so you'll never be on ketoses, and therefor suffer from all side effects mentioned by you. It should be a diet high on fats.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Being overweight is a much stronger correlate to cancer and heart disease than "sugar". And, despite what you might have read in the press, it's nowhere near a consensus that sugar is the primary cause of being overweight. You really think a 50-year-old study is the smoking gun that's going to usher in a consensus among nutrition scientists everywhere? Personally, I buy Stephen Guyenet's theory that palatability is t…

Sugar seems to pretty obviously make people overweight. Especially in liquid form. And if this is not a consensus, well, see the title of this post. This isn't a hard thing to test.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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I am not sure, how appropriate this is, but a related question/poll: there is the stereotype, that hackers/IT guys are in general fat/unhealthy. But in my experience, this is not at all true. It might just be my circles of people (mostly germans around 30), but most of the IT guys I know, take good care of their body, eat healthy and do all kinds of sports. Even though some are now starting to get lazy, the overall p…

People with higher education often take better care of their bodies. Here is my theory: A couple of decades ago, IT didn't require much education, because there weren't many schools doing IT. So many people without higher education worked in IT.

A lot of us never did higher education, work in the industry, and still aren't fat.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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I find it hard to follow nutritional advise when there are so many charlatans taking advantage of women trying to lose weight without any health concern.

A Medicine degree shouldn't be necessary in order to eat well.

Any reliable source where I can learn the 'nutritional 101' in layman terms?

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