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Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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I started the keto diet with intermittent fasting about a month ago. Lost 13kg, doesn't have cravings anymore, doesn't feel hungry all the time, and it's easier now to consentrate, fall asleep and wake up.

Defenetly feels like carbohydrates/sugar is poison.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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I started the keto diet with intermittent fasting about a month ago. Lost 13kg, doesn't have cravings anymore, doesn't feel hungry all the time, and it's easier now to consentrate, fall asleep and wake up. Defenetly feels like carbohydrates/sugar is poison.

Keto diet is terrible for you. You are losing weight because you are sick. It's the refined carbs and sugar that are not good, you just need to get them from whole sources with the fiber and all.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Makes you wonder what we'll find out is being withheld right now, 50 years from now.

Estrogen in Soy causing #SoyBoys

Myth. There's much more estrogen in dairy. Milk is packed with hormones. It comes from a female cow after giving birth for heavens sake.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Required viewing if you are interested in the Politics of Sugar. => http://sugarcoateddoc.com Saw it on Netflix. Thought I saw it on youtube also for free, but can't seem to find the video.

Only available on Netflix US and Canada as well as a handful theater screenings. I've said it before but it almost seems as if those documentaries try to limit their audience. I can't count the number of times I stumbled upon interesting small, niche and independent documentaries only to find out that they are only screening in a few limited locations worldwide without any purchasing option in sight.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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I started the keto diet with intermittent fasting about a month ago. Lost 13kg, doesn't have cravings anymore, doesn't feel hungry all the time, and it's easier now to consentrate, fall asleep and wake up. Defenetly feels like carbohydrates/sugar is poison.

I'm on a keto diet, lost 2 kg over 2 months but was already quite fit. Didn't feel much different. I truly believe that all the "keto changed everything about my life!" hype is basically just overweight people loosing weigh and misinterpreting all the benefits of no-longer being overweight as being related to the carbohydrates. Don't feel hungry all the time? Working out regularly does that too you no-matter what you eat. Easier to concentrate? Funny enough, most research on cutting carbohydrates out your diet indicates that it reduces your mental fitness, but again, if you were overweight and you're losing weight, that's going to have that effect. Easier to fall asleep and wake up? Well again, just working out and not being overweight will help you here.

Not saying that keto doesn't work or doesn't have unique aspect to it, but at the end of the day, to me it seems that 80% of it is just calories in, calories out. Then 20% about making it easier to actually stick to that. And the remaining 98% is all hype.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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I recently started the Whole 30 diet (paleo), and it's nearly impossible to avoid sugar, corn starch, and dextrose. Almost all fooeds seem to have one of those. Often for no reason: why put sugar in beans and bacon, or corn starch in turkey? The amount of money I'm spending on food jumped by 3x. It seems accurate to say that if you're poor, you're almost forced to eat sugar for economic reasons.

No, that's because you have the artificial requirement to eat meat and stuff, which usually has additives. I've been in a whole food plant based diet and it's super cheap to buy all of the fruits, vegetables, grains, etc in bulk.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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How is the food industry supposed to grow if we stop becoming more and more obese?

If we eat better food that is more sustainable the food industry will do well. You replace the giant producers with lots of small farms. People pay more for food per calorie, but balanced out by fewer calories. The food mafia won't like this though so they'll lobby for laws to avoid it.

I'm actually in the process of founding a small farm :-)

I tend to conflate the food industry with the food mafia though, and I'm highly skeptical of the long term prospects of civilization if we pursue our growth-based economy.

Resources on earth are finite, efficiency can't rise past (or approach) 100%, and the amount of entropy we generate today is already too high for the rest of the biosphere, leading to its collapse.

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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There was no fat to remove from pasta sauce. Maybe they also figured out that sugar was addictive and added it everywhere to sell even more food with sugar?

You need to add sugar to contrast tomato acidity, it has nothing to do with sugar addiction. And it has been like this since forever, not only from the '70s. Source: even my grandmother added a pinch of sugar when cooking pasta sauce.

Yes, a pinch, not enough sugar to turn the sauce into "kids ketchup"

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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I started the keto diet with intermittent fasting about a month ago. Lost 13kg, doesn't have cravings anymore, doesn't feel hungry all the time, and it's easier now to consentrate, fall asleep and wake up. Defenetly feels like carbohydrates/sugar is poison.

Keto diet is terrible for you. You are losing weight because you are sick. It's the refined carbs and sugar that are not good, you just need to get them from whole sources with the fiber and all.

> Keto diet is terrible for you.

Because?

Re: Sugar industry withheld possible evidence of cancer link 50 years ago

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Breakfast cereal companies are borderline criminal. Most cereals are just straight sugar on some substrate. Even most muesli/granola is loaded with sugar, whether cane sugar, honey, or dried fruit.

Depends on the cereal. The corn flakes I usually eat for breakfast have basically 0 nutritional value, I think the entire 1kg box contains about 800kJ, no sugar and the rest of that is then mostly air or filler.

https://www.kelloggs.com.au/en_AU/products/corn-flakes.html This is the most popular in Australia and it has sugar and salt. Which one doesn't have sugar?
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