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Choosing New York over San Francisco
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Re: Choosing New York over San Francisco
#72I think one major argument that he didn't mention is that NYC beats SF hands down in the 'getting laid' department. If you are young and your idea of having a good time is going out, partying until 4am, and getting laid often, then you should stay in NYC. If you a super hipster, social outcast and/or into weird stuff, then come to SF. Your friends are already here.
http://whytherearenogirls.blogspot.com/. Enough said.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
I actually had a similar experience. Spent most of my life in SF but lived for about 6 months in Manhattan. It was far, far easier to meet women. In fact, a guy can even be a bit of a wallflower and still meet women in Manhattan, because they will take the initiative. Funny, up to that point, I thought SF was a pretty good place to meet women, because my only point of comparison was San Diego, which is a pretty rough…
Having lived on the east coast, midwest, and west coast, I would say the resources are certainly different at a business level (capital, talent, etc) although you can certainly make do wherever you go. However, anyone who thinks there are hot girls in SF has never left SF.
anyone who thinks there are hot girls in SF has never left SF
Wil, you haven't lived here long enough to even know where to look. Also, SF != the bay area.
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#74I agree with the (title of the) post very much, but one major point I would like to make is: Mountain View != San Francisco! I find it very misleading when people talk about San Francisco (usually in a negative light) and what they are really talking about are the suburbs of SF. Please stop doing that. That would be like saying NYC is boring because you are actually talking about Yonkers.
Yeah, but 80% of the tech employment is down there. So you either have a horrific commute or get to live in the suburbs.
That alone seals it for me, I'm staying in NYC. Although maybe I'd get more work done if my immediate environment bored me to tears.
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#75Not every time, but much of the time, I try to talk about what I do with a New Yorker (most East Coasters, actually), they start by bringing a lot of stop energy[0]. They'll say something like "Why are you doing that when there's already X?"[1], "That'll never work because of Y"[2], "Why did you quit your job at Z?", "Why don't you go work at ABC Investments, Hedge Funds, and Worldwide Arbitrage, Inc?"[3], etc. It's…
For example, when the iPhone came out, ... in New York, it was almost a non-event; Really? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iSE0bBgUsQ
Yes, really. At that point the NY tech scene still considered iPhones to be toys.
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#76Compared to New York, it’s boring. I have trouble even thinking about living in an apartment in Mountain View, Cupertino or Palo Alto. Those places are socially dead.
This post suffers from the presumption that everyone wants the same thing from a city. So SF (really, the Bay Area) was not for you. It's for a lot of us.
Not all of us want to suffer awful winters and unbearable summers. Some of us love natural beauty -- and not just the girls. And many of us like a different kind of social scene than NYC offers.
Sure, NYC is exciting. I've been there, and not as a tourist. But it's not for me. (Then again, I'm not 20.) SF (proper, not the Bay Area in general) is the birthplace of cafe society. Mountain biking was born on Mt. Tam. This is a unique, beautiful place, and a lot of people can't figure it out -- and so they move. That's fine: we're already the largest state in the union. We don't need any more people, thank you.
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#77Not every time, but much of the time, I try to talk about what I do with a New Yorker (most East Coasters, actually), they start by bringing a lot of stop energy[0]. They'll say something like "Why are you doing that when there's already X?"[1], "That'll never work because of Y"[2], "Why did you quit your job at Z?", "Why don't you go work at ABC Investments, Hedge Funds, and Worldwide Arbitrage, Inc?"[3], etc. It's…
Do you really find that the types of responses you get can be stereotyped by the person's location? I just have a hard time believing that qualities like this can be chalked up to location and certain parts of the country, but perhaps I'm naive (and I have no experience living on the west coast).
Yes. It's a generalization, so there are always exceptions, but in general east coasters are much less accepting of things and ideas outside the norm than are west coasters.
Re: Choosing New York over San Francisco
#78I think one major argument that he didn't mention is that NYC beats SF hands down in the 'getting laid' department. If you are young and your idea of having a good time is going out, partying until 4am, and getting laid often, then you should stay in NYC. If you a super hipster, social outcast and/or into weird stuff, then come to SF. Your friends are already here.
In this regard, Chicago trumps all. Chicago is to New York, as New York is to SF. Normalize this graph for population and you'll see what I mean: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/06/where_are_all_the...
Please. Chicago has no culture, no vibe, no personality. People there are, by and large, spending their adulthoods trying to overcome their religious upbringing. The weather sucks, the business climate is mainly stuck in the 1930s. There's no There there. What's good about it, again?
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually girls in NYC are attracted to success and most women here are very impressed by "I started my own company in NYC". Although this is where your ability to "massage" the truth comes into play.
Pretend for a second that you realize that girls read HN too. If you massage the truth about your company, it's inconceivable that I would sleep with you, let alone take you seriously.
I really appreciate the honesty here. But what are you exactly conceding to: that you'll only sleep with me if I truly earn above a pre-determined salary figure (because apparently women appreciates honesty), or that you'll still sleep with me if I come clean and tell you that I'm a just average normal thousandaire (because apparently women appreciates honesty).
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#80Not every time, but much of the time, I try to talk about what I do with a New Yorker (most East Coasters, actually), they start by bringing a lot of stop energy[0]. They'll say something like "Why are you doing that when there's already X?"[1], "That'll never work because of Y"[2], "Why did you quit your job at Z?", "Why don't you go work at ABC Investments, Hedge Funds, and Worldwide Arbitrage, Inc?"[3], etc. It's…
I'm not sure a little stop energy is such a bad thing. I'd say take their views with some salt...but Silicon Valley tends to be an echo-chamber. What's important in the valley isn't always important everywhere else. Unless your business/venture/idea is only targeted at people in the Bay Area, it pays to keep a little attention elsewhere.
I think the iPhone alone proves that wrong.