I know Google/Facebook/etc would never do it, but it would be great if just for a day or two the big 3 would null route any traffic coming from D.C. in protest.
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#162Is it time to go full decentralized peer-to-peer wireless mesh yet? I know it would be slow, but that's par for the course in most of the US anyway. Routing would be painful, but something like IPFS would encourage peers to cache content in order to ensure faster access to the content they want. It could be done if only the barrier to entry for normal folks was lower. I'm thinking a dedicated piece of hardware in a f…
Or just fix the policies.
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#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
People are dropping cable due to the heavy-handed control and lack of choice. Why would ISPs want emulate that failing model? If Comcast is going to try to charge me more to be able to access Netflix, I'm gone.
To where? Or are you one of those lucky few who have a choice of ISP?
The vast majority have some choice. The average household can choose between their telecom or their cable company. In some areas one or both of those companies don't provide broadband, but in the bulk of locations they do.
And while 4g service isn't a true replacement, it provides enough competition to prevent the AOL-ization of the internet. At a certain point, people would choose more expensive wireless over absurdly locked down wireline.
So while Comcast does have a monopoly in some areas, people would switch to Fios or Uverse or local DSL in the areas without monopoly if they tried anything too bad. Hypothetically comcast could try to monetize only in monopoly areas, but that would be a hard sell and it would be very transparent.
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#165I'd like to read your opinions on what this means for the evolution of the internet outside the US. Will the US internet become somehow separate from the world wide web ? Will it be harder or easier for international companies to have access to the US market ? and conversely will it be harder or easier for US based companies to have access to international customers?
Thank you for your insights.
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#166Tweet in article: >On December 14, the FCC will vote on Chairman Pai's plan to repeal President Obama's heavy-handed Internet regulations and restore Internet freedom. I love how these laws are veiled with patriotic sentiments, e.g. "Internet Freedom". Just like the "Patriot Act", it is reasonable to assume anything with these sort of labels will likely be an encroachment on your freedoms. Also >"The job of the FCC i…
> "If you like your cable company"
I've never once, in my entire life, heard anyone say they like Comcast.
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#167I don't watch TV, cable or NFLX. I read newspapers, nerd papers, old Project Gutenberg philosophy books and watch YouTube lectures or instrumental music. Amazon is great for my never shopping habit. Hobbyist sites are better than magazines used to be for user product reviews. But I never enjoyed speaking with people who watch TV. That's why I found the Ultrix and the Net in the 1980's back at Harvard. I live in DC an…
Why did you type this?
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#168Google, Facebook, Netflix and Amazon should just start charging ISPs a per user fee to similar to how cable channels work. If ISPs don't pay, they should display ISP's phone number and ask the customer to call their local ISP and demand access. Content is king even in you have a monopoly on distribution .
In practice, it's not, primarily, these companies (with the possible exception of Netflix) who are going to be hurt by this. They're too important; if ISPs try to traffic-shape Facebook noticeably their users will revolt. It'll be smaller companies and startups.
Small companies and startups will not be big enough to have any impact. It will be more expensive to keep track of them than they are worth. And most startups are cloud-based now. They will just pay Amazon or Google for whatever bandwidth they need.
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#169I love how political posts (particularly about this corrupt, incompetent administration) get flagged on HN because they're not "on topic" Well here you go, turns out politics affects real life, and even the tech industry.
Many such comments get flagged not because they're political, but because they're inflammatory and lacking insight. Civil and substantive comments, which have at least a chance at inviting thoughtful discussion, are what we're after.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google and Netflix are both pro-neutrality, not anti-; you'd be lobbying with rather than against them on this issue.
I've heard this, but I haven't seen recent statements to this point. In fact, IIRC, they were explicitly questioned by some news outlets with the recent kerfluffel and their responses boiled down to "it will all be OK". Frankly, given their market positions, Google and Netflix only stand to win with anti-NN. Google's Public Policy blog [0] seems to back up the no comment stance - their last comment is from 2010, dati…
> I've heard this, but I haven't seen recent statements to this point
More recent coverage than your March article on Netflix: http://fortune.com/2017/06/15/netflix-net-neutrality-fcc/
And Google's current (and thus, more recent than your 2015 article) action page on neutrality:
https://www.google.com/takeaction/action/freeandopen/index.h...