I had my own personal experience with that today. In my case, the automatic installer didn't like FileVault, which rendered my mbpro a shiny brick. In relative terms, it was easy to work around in recovery mode but I can imagine the pleasure a non-technical user would feel at waking to find their beloved mac turned into a shiny brick.
Apple Begins High Sierra Automatic Rollout
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#142The upgrade to 10.13.1 has effectively locked my SSD in read-only mode because reading from it would always cause an APFS kernel panic (both under 10.13 and 10.13.1) also making it impossible to boot from it. It took me several hours to figure that out and to restore my data. I now downgraded to 10.12.6 and I am not missing anything. I think I am going to switch to Ubuntu as soon there is a comparable laptop to MacBo…
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#144It is a shame to see Apple using the same tactics as iOS with macOS, which in my opinion a different beast when it comes to upgrades. I really regret upgrading to High Sierra, because — thanks to a still unfixed graphics driver issue, my 2014 rMBP reboots/lags/breaks when using the GPU. Fortunately, I managed to remedy it with a beta Nvidia driver; without a pro-user mindset, I can only imagine how many people are fr…
> High Sierra has the same lack of 'internal polish' as iOS 11, and as a result, it's going to leave a lot of users scratching their heads in anger. I've avoided upgrading to macOS High Sierra just to wait and see how it turns out. I'm less cautious with iOS, and am currently frustrated by two things in iOS 11: 1. The WiFi/Bluetooth radio behavior in Control Center (to compensate I use Siri to turn those off, but tha…
This is either an engineering decision (let's just focus our efforts on the latest thing) -- but then optimizing the whole iOS would speed up ALL of the devices, wouldn't it?; an economic decision justified as an engineering one (who cares about the old devices? let's just sell them a new one); or incompetence.
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#145Our IT dept just sent us an email NOT to upgrade if OS asks. Wonder if the holdout is the new filesystem or something else?
I have not seen anything bad about the new FS, I have heard everything bad from the OS itself. I had held off of Sierra because it felt half-baked and hoped High Sierra to be a Snow Leopard/Mountain Lion/Cap, but it's really not looking good. It does not help that I have one of the "dead dGPU" 2010 series, and with every new release I dread more and more that gfx won't be able to lock the system in "integrated only"…
I’m not an “Apple are doomed”-er but this is the poorest Apple OS release since the black screen of death that plagued iOS8.
You seem to generally get about 3 years of use from an iOS device before the CPU can’t really keep up with the OS updates. I couldn’t recommend upgrading an iPhone 6 to iOS 11 as my wife’s 6 Plus has basically become unusable.
Maybe part of the problem is that no-one in Cupertino will be using a 3-4 year old iPhone or a 2012 Mac on a daily basis?
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#146The entry model of MacBook Pro comes with just 250GB, I personally struggle to keep 30GB free (I need to have Android SDK and iOS SDK installed) When having less than 20GB the OS gets slow, so I usually run DaisyDisk to find what can I delete, I didn't like to find the high sierra installer there. On the side note, I didn't update to High Sierra because it seems that there are issues with XCode 9 (slow simulator) so…
If you own a newer non-upgradable MBP, you can easily sell it and get an older model with almost the same features - but also upgradable - and maybe even make a few bucks.
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#147This is not unlike Microsoft's aggressive push to automatically install Windows 10 a few years ago.
This has became the new normal it seems. Just like it's acceptable to reboot a computer without a user's permission, losing all their work (or to start it in the middle of the night and not switch it back off). This is purely something that these companies do for their own good without any regard for the user. They probably think "What are you going to do about it? Install Ubuntu?"
On any given day, at least one of Windows, Firefox, VSCode, or myriad other less important apps wants to update before it runs. Talk about pessimising app start times! App start time is now the time to download and reinstall!
Windows FCU silently borked 6 of my machines by steamrolling drivers I had carefully selected for stability and performance. Broke GPU and Wifi on 5 of those, and it took me half a day to figure out what changed. On my main dev machine, Windows Update got into an infinite loop of churning the disk 100% and never finishing. Every fix I tried did nothing, until finally I disabled all WU services.
So in resignation, I did install Ubuntu. And was quickly reminded why I don’t use it. Ironically, the productivity-killer there is also about updates: for any app I need to run properly, I have to update its whole lineage of dependencies, often manually, and work out which versions it likes.
So I’m reluctantly back to Windows. I’ve just changed all the update settings I can find to ask me or just leave me alone and let me get a little work done.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Part of me misses the days when getting an OS X update was an event that required a trip to an Apple Store to pick up Part of me misses updates like Snow Leopard where the only reason I wanted it was because it saved 7GB of HD space and improved performance. I would 100% buy OS updates that all they did was optimize existing code.
Especially since this "OS" is so far from being just that. In the tour of new features, the first 3 were about editing/organizing photos, then there were a bunch for a browser I don't use followed up by some changes to a mail client that isn't webmail. I'm sure High Sierra includes plenty of lower-level improvements too, but I fail to see why a photos app isn't an optional add on or distinct app from the app store, e…
How about a brand new filesystem?
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#149Unfortunately my mom fell for this and the upgrade did not succeed destroying her operating system install. Hopefully her documents are still there; she really enjoys looking at pictures of her kids and grandkids. Apple seriously needs to take heart of this message: https://youtu.be/e_hnG7kuam8
> the upgrade did not succeed destroying her operating system install. You should use a comma there. You probably meant "the upgrade did not succeed, [thus] destroying her OS install". But without the command, it means "the upgrade did not succeed [in] destroying her OS install", which is the exact opposite.