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To be honest, what more do you want to see in it? Perhaps Apple should go down Microsoft's route, and add more and more stuff until it looks and acts ridiculously. I hope it does not.
>To be honest, what more do you want to see in it? An App Store for OSX would be nice. Or even just a repository mechanism - I am so sick of updating the apps on my Mac systems when my multiple Linux boxes are always up-to-date with the latest stable releases. Its 2010, can we please have an OSX repo mechanism, Apple?
Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)
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Just over a year old, and just past two years since Apple first showed it at WWDC 2008. Snow Leopard was a relatively minor upgrade even by Apple's admission (hence the price tag $100 lower than for previous iterations), yet it still suffered delays because of work on iOS. Meanwhile, there was zero mention of anything Macintosh at WWDC this year, meaning we're probably at least a year off from any real news at 10.7,…
To be honest, what more do you want to see in it? Perhaps Apple should go down Microsoft's route, and add more and more stuff until it looks and acts ridiculously. I hope it does not.
The superbar is a better dock than the Dock. Windows Search was a usable app launcher before Spotlight was. Aero Snap and Peek are useful window management features.
During the same time period, desktop linux has rapidly evolved, with Ubuntu 10.04 being a very polished UI on top of a *nix base -- something which used to be OS X's great claim to fame.
What I'm getting at is that Apple has been so focused on the mobile sector that they've been consistently and thoroughly out-innovated by their competitors in the last several years. I don't understand how anyone could argue that Apple resting on their laurels after 10.5 while Windows and Linux has consistently moved forward could possibly be a good thing.
I mean, remember WWDC 2006 where Apple was bragging that they were releasing Vista 2.0? [1] What about WWDC 2004 with the "Introducing Longhorn" banners? [2] For much of the last decade, Apple was at the forefront of desktop innovation. That hasn't really been the case since they started focusing on iOS, and the fact that they're pulling manpower from the Macintosh to work on iOS is a key factor in why.
[1] http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/10441/ [2] http://macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/01/wwdc.html
Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)
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>To be honest, what more do you want to see in it? An App Store for OSX would be nice. Or even just a repository mechanism - I am so sick of updating the apps on my Mac systems when my multiple Linux boxes are always up-to-date with the latest stable releases. Its 2010, can we please have an OSX repo mechanism, Apple?
Most OS X apps seem to have this built in. The donkey is somewhat out of the stable with auto-update on OS X, no?
Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)
#94I am reminded of one of the companies from Neuromancer . Was it Maas-Neotek? Gibson described most large companies as being composed mostly of flab, with a few hard bits of "edge." But there was this one large company that was all edge . It was a predator amongst its peers. For awhile Apple was just eating everyone's lunch because they were the only ones who understood end-to-end User Experience. Apple's stated strat…
"Apple is run like a huge startup that makes 15 billion a quarter and has, ya'know, a strategy."
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I can honestly say that the Microsoft interview was the most difficult, draining 6 hours of my life. And that was for an internship -- basically interviewing to do a 3 month interview. I don't think anyone who's been on the inside would say Microsoft just "throws" developers at their problems.
How Microsoft may interview candidates has no bearing on what they may direct them to do once hired.
Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)
#96downvoters: Sorry if this question was offensive; I'm asking about if the "apple is like a startup" trend continues into developers being able to choose what kind of tools they want to work with. My complaining about my MBP isn't meant as a critique of apple, I'm just saying that if it was me I would probably choose a linux machine, not a mac. I apologize for the off-topic question, but is anybody here a coder for ap…
I agree with a lot of your other points re: the keyboard layout, but FYI on this -- OS X is app-centric in its WM rather than window-centric. (Coincidentally, W7 has moved in this same direction with the Superbar).
CMD-tab cycles through applications; once you've gotten to the application you want, use CMD-` to cycle through individual windows. It's a little bit weird at first, but once you get used to it, I honestly think it scales better for navigating large numbers of windows.
HTH.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just over a year old, and just past two years since Apple first showed it at WWDC 2008. Snow Leopard was a relatively minor upgrade even by Apple's admission (hence the price tag $100 lower than for previous iterations), yet it still suffered delays because of work on iOS. Meanwhile, there was zero mention of anything Macintosh at WWDC this year, meaning we're probably at least a year off from any real news at 10.7,…
To be honest, what more do you want to see in it? Perhaps Apple should go down Microsoft's route, and add more and more stuff until it looks and acts ridiculously. I hope it does not.
Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)
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To be honest, what more do you want to see in it? Perhaps Apple should go down Microsoft's route, and add more and more stuff until it looks and acts ridiculously. I hope it does not.
In the time since 10.5 was released, MS has gone from the creaking, ancient XP to putting out Vista (yes, with some rough edges) to Windows 7, which is, frankly, the best desktop operating system that Microsoft has ever produced. The superbar is a better dock than the Dock. Windows Search was a usable app launcher before Spotlight was. Aero Snap and Peek are useful window management features. During the same time per…
If you look at OSX and Windows 7 from a purely technical angle, they aren't actually all that different. They both have an increasingly analogous set of libraries (Cocoa looks more like .NET every time I visit ADC's site, though Apple still isn't in Microsoft's league as far as development tools and languages).
Apple has done some innovative things, like OpenCL -- which, naturally, Microsoft is copying... but in the end, the differences between OSX and Windows 7 are largely user experience, not technology.
That's not a bad thing, but it does highlight the fact that most of the "innovation" that Apple has been touting over the years hasn't been innovation, it's been lambasting Microsoft for not having its act together.
I suspect that Apple is focusing on mobile computing and the cloud partly because there's no technical way to differentiate its computers from everyone else's any more. Their internals are built by the same companies that build everyone else's internals... so the only differences left are the operating system and the chassis. That's not going to do wonders for their margins.
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I can't stand it either and I think Kindle has a better e-Book reader than Apple. Amazon did a good job at thinking, "this is not a book... this is not a book" where-as Apple brought all of the physical things from a book into an electronic application.
I bet a lot of the iPad target audience wants it to be close to a physical book. They aren't geeks.
Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)
#100The iBooks app, too, with all the sexy page turning animation was written by one guy (before it became big).
http://techcrunch.com/2010/01/27/think-ibooks-looks-familiar...