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Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)

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Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)

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Maybe that's the problem at Microsoft: they think they can solve problems by throwing lots of people at them. They put together large teams to build products. And large teams require managers. I didn't know Microsoft had a problem, they seem to be doing pretty well. They have some good products. Apple being successful doesn't necessarily translate to Microsoft sucking. They are both damn good companies.

If only everyone could use logic like you rather than just bashing around everywhere.

Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)

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post #25

Maybe that's the problem at Microsoft: they think they can solve problems by throwing lots of people at them. They put together large teams to build products. And large teams require managers. I didn't know Microsoft had a problem, they seem to be doing pretty well. They have some good products. Apple being successful doesn't necessarily translate to Microsoft sucking. They are both damn good companies.

I didn't know Microsoft had a problem, they seem to be doing pretty well.

In the mobile market? How about anything next-generation web? Social media? Microsoft doesn't seem to be doing well anywhere except the increasingly unimportant desktop and Office suite space.

Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)

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post #25

Maybe that's the problem at Microsoft: they think they can solve problems by throwing lots of people at them. They put together large teams to build products. And large teams require managers. I didn't know Microsoft had a problem, they seem to be doing pretty well. They have some good products. Apple being successful doesn't necessarily translate to Microsoft sucking. They are both damn good companies.

@volski: "Apple being successful doesn't necessarily translate to Microsoft sucking."

Completely true, and as Steve Jobs famously said in 1997: "If we want to move forward and see Apple healthy and prospering again, we have to let go of a few things here. We have to let go of this notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose. We have to embrace a notion that for Apple to win, Apple has to do a really good job."

@volski: "I didn't know Microsoft had a problem, they seem to be doing pretty well. They have some good products."

Personally, I use Microsoft Excel and Microsoft Exchange, and I feel they are best in class. For every other product they offer, I feel there are better alternatives.

The notion that Microsoft has a problem stems from the fact that most of the new product lines that Microsoft has put to market in the last 10 years, few have been a success. Microsoft's profit comes mostly from licensing and servicing Windows and Office.

Meanwhile, in the last 10 years Apple has introduced iTunes, iPod, iPhone, and iPad -- all mega hits. What makes it a sad sight to see is that every time Apple comes up with another iDevice, Microsoft tries to compete, and it simply hasn't worked out for them. Windows Marketplace, MSN Music, Zune, Kin, Windows Mobile 6.5, Courier -- the list goes on.

Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)

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post #26

The iBooks app, too, with all the sexy page turning animation was written by one guy (before it became big).

Am I the only person who hates that animation? This is about the only reason why I use Stanza, no animation to waste my time with.

I can't stand it either and I think Kindle has a better e-Book reader than Apple. Amazon did a good job at thinking, "this is not a book... this is not a book" where-as Apple brought all of the physical things from a book into an electronic application.

Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)

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downvoters: Sorry if this question was offensive; I'm asking about if the "apple is like a startup" trend continues into developers being able to choose what kind of tools they want to work with. My complaining about my MBP isn't meant as a critique of apple, I'm just saying that if it was me I would probably choose a linux machine, not a mac. I apologize for the off-topic question, but is anybody here a coder for ap…

One of the first things you need to do is goto the Keyboard section of System Preferences and enable Full Keyboard Access for all controls. Makes OSX more keyboard friendly.

Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stagnate? Snow Leopard is just under a year old. I wouldn't expect a desktop OS to have a same release frequency as a mobile os.

Oddly, Debian has about the same release cycle (once per 12-18 months), and ends up being the butt of lots of jokes about how they rarely ever release anything.

From looking at this, it looks like it's something more like 2 years (24 months), and as long as 3 years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian

Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)

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post #32
post #25

Maybe that's the problem at Microsoft: they think they can solve problems by throwing lots of people at them. They put together large teams to build products. And large teams require managers. I didn't know Microsoft had a problem, they seem to be doing pretty well. They have some good products. Apple being successful doesn't necessarily translate to Microsoft sucking. They are both damn good companies.

I didn't know Microsoft had a problem, they seem to be doing pretty well. In the mobile market? How about anything next-generation web? Social media? Microsoft doesn't seem to be doing well anywhere except the increasingly unimportant desktop and Office suite space.

Windows Live, Bing, Xbox, Servers, Cloud Services...

It's easy to bash on them, but they make quality products in a diverse range of markets. Sure they fail and fail big, but who the hell doesn't? If you have made anything successful, you've probably failed 100s of times. It comes with the territory.

Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)

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post #32
post #25

Maybe that's the problem at Microsoft: they think they can solve problems by throwing lots of people at them. They put together large teams to build products. And large teams require managers. I didn't know Microsoft had a problem, they seem to be doing pretty well. They have some good products. Apple being successful doesn't necessarily translate to Microsoft sucking. They are both damn good companies.

I didn't know Microsoft had a problem, they seem to be doing pretty well. In the mobile market? How about anything next-generation web? Social media? Microsoft doesn't seem to be doing well anywhere except the increasingly unimportant desktop and Office suite space.

XBOX, .NET, Bing, Facebook (1.3% ownership + exclusive ad partnership). Enough said.

Re: Apple is run like a huge startup (and the remote app was written by 1 guy)

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This article, like many others, seems to overestimate how large the actual numbers of developers is at Microsoft, as opposed to full teams with Test and mgmt and their associated marketing, sales, etc. organizations. The .NET GC was roughly 1 person (sometimes a little less, sometimes a little more). Most of the base class libraries were one person. Even larger things, like the text editor, were usually a senior pers…

Not to be obtuse, or maybe miss the joke, but how can you sometimes have a little less than 1 person working on one of the most important parts of your runtime?

Sounds like a bug more than a feature to me. :)

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