Does this mean that all crypto in 1Password X is now implemented in Javascript?
It is implemented with WebCrypto APIs. The performance would be abysmal in pure JavaScript.
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same. I have a tough time empathizing with people who expect free upgrades forever (especially if purchased many years prior) if they don’t articulate how those upgrades should be funded. I think it comes from a desktop software mentality, where things remained rather static relative to mobile’s rapid changes.
1Password upgrades are not free, they were charging for major versions.
Just checked, last time I paid was $10 (i think for an upgrade) in 2013.
Re: 1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser
#63Does this mean that all crypto in 1Password X is now implemented in Javascript?
I'm worried about this too. The entire reason I migrated to 1Password over Lastpass is that I don't trust Lastpass' extension. There are too many edge cases, too much fuzziness around "offline usage", and too much reliance on the browser. 1Password's extension acting as an anchor for 1Password Mini, which runs as a separate application on my desktop outside of the browser ecosystem, is a major draw. I don't see how t…
1Password X is a pure Chrome extension and does not rely on the native app. This has its benefits and obvious drawbacks.
Some of the benefits:
* Simpler installation
* Support for multiple users on the same computer with Chrome user profiles
* Support for Chrome OS
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Linux is a major platform? It’s probably as hard to write a Linux version as it is to write the other two, but it has at least two orders of magnitude fewer users.
It's a major platform amongst hackers, no? That's the core audience here.
I don't think hackers are 1Password's core audience. Password managers have a pretty wide appeal.
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#65What does this have that Lastpass does not?
Incompatibility with Safari, Firefox, and Edge?
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#66Nope. I'm out then having bought desktop licenses from 1.x to 4.x for Windows and OS X.
Re: 1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser
#67Former LastPass employee here. Looks to me like 1Password is going full LastPass. First fully hosted passwords. Now support for extension only (which is way worse security wise). SaaS margins and recurring revenue is better, and I guess their previous model was killing 1Password.
Yeah - I'm surprised there aren't more comments pointing this out.
When you state "their previous model", do you mean per-user pricing vs. per-device?
Re: 1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser
#68Former LastPass employee here. Looks to me like 1Password is going full LastPass. First fully hosted passwords. Now support for extension only (which is way worse security wise). SaaS margins and recurring revenue is better, and I guess their previous model was killing 1Password.
Yeah - I'm surprised there aren't more comments pointing this out. When you state "their previous model", do you mean per-user pricing vs. per-device?
It's both. My guess is the product offering and pricing changes are part of the same push for recurring revenue
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#69Am I the only one in here who loves their hosted solutions? We use Teams at work and I use Family for my wife and I. It's important to me that I have access to certain passwords on my desktop, laptop and phone. These items also need to be accessible to others who should be able to view/edit. There's no way to do with without some sort of cloud solution and so the decision becomes which cloud solution. I used to use D…
> Am I the only one in here who loves their hosted solutions?
No, even though I'm fully-aware that it's ill-advised. You're picking your poison: you can either have absolute security (which should always win, but I am human) or convenience. That being said, I'm not a fan of them forcing people down their hosted route.
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#70There is a segment of your users that still want the original 'on-prem' version that you started out with.
These nerds have money and understand you want a sustainable business model. Just charge these people an annual software maintenance fee and stop neglecting the standalone version. Yes it wont satisfy everyone, but it will stop all the negative PR that comes out whenever you do something that is artificially cloud only.