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1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser

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Re: 1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser

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post #36

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I built a Linux machine to perform my development work on and found it out. "It has never been supported on Linux", uh, okay? I'm saying it's totally shitty that a major platform is not supported.

Linux is a major platform? It’s probably as hard to write a Linux version as it is to write the other two, but it has at least two orders of magnitude fewer users.

It's a major platform amongst hackers, no? That's the core audience here.

Re: 1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser

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Ugh. Agilebits left out until the very end that this is only for their hosted solution. No surprise but looks like standalone users are left out in the cold. Again. Much as I like and use 1Password every day, I really really do not like the fact that they moved to a hosted model.

I’m sure from a business perspective 1Password X was also designed with the intent to close the free/standalone funnel and convert those with standalone onto the hosted/paid plan. It’s all about the MRR and I don’t blame them. I’d do the same thing if I was CEO. The money to pay for this R&D/engineering has to come from somewhere.

Re: 1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser

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Am I the only one in here who loves their hosted solutions? We use Teams at work and I use Family for my wife and I. It's important to me that I have access to certain passwords on my desktop, laptop and phone. These items also need to be accessible to others who should be able to view/edit. There's no way to do with without some sort of cloud solution and so the decision becomes which cloud solution. I used to use D…

I disagree. In fact, given the regular loss of online credentials, I think you are misguided in your faith in a hosted password solution. There are plenty of people that do not want to for very good reasons.

As far as syncing using non-hosted 1Password, I use a combination of wifi sync (for mobile devices) and Resilio (in local sync only mode, no tracker, no cloud copy a la Dropbox) to sync. Works very nicely across 5 or 6 devices and fits my use case of syncing only when my devices are on the same network.

Re: 1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser

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post #30

Ouch! I just switched to Firefox 57 and I can't use this new feature! Shouldn't the WebExtension be portable across both browsers with minimal work with Firefox 57?

Yeah, it requires minimal work but some companies can't even put minimal work into their extensions so here we are...

Re: 1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Standalone version’s support is abysmal. Just yesterday I found out it is not supported on Linux. I’m sorry, but what ? I almost regret purchasing 1Password. edit: So complaining about lack of support for a major operating system is downvote-worthy now. Cool. Keep it classy, HN.

A lot of commercial software is not supported on Linux. The vast majority of it, even. At one point I ran the legacy Windows version under Wine, which even worked with the Chrome extension. Had to disable some extension security policy in Chrome though.

This is off topic but I've had to use AIX for a recent project and it's jarring to see the lack of software available for AIX compared to Linux. Makes me happy to go back to Linux.

So it's all relative =)

Re: 1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser

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I purchased the standalone Mac 1Password app, but moved back to LastPass.

I hate LastPass, and want to use 1P but LP just seems to work better. Despite being bloated and ugly.

Admittedly, I haven't tried 1P for around a year now. So as I have a license, I have been tempted to go back. Is it worth it?

My biggest gripe is in Chrome on iOS. Nothing ever seems to be able to autofill correctly and the UX is just horrible...

1. Tap Menu Button

2. Tap Share Button

3. Tap LastPass

4. Authorise Touch ID

5. Select Password

6. Autofill fails... Go back to 1. (Then hold to copy the password instead of fill)

Re: 1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser

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I find myself wondering if keepass is going to introduce a new vault type of small individual files in a directory and move into where 1Password used to be (including "cloud" using any of many cloud storage options).

edit: Seems to me that even if you set a fixed file size of 1-2k for each entry it wouldn't be too huge, or perhaps a dual-file per entry system with one small fixed-size file (128-256 bytes?) for indexed info (URL, name, username), etc. and a second fixed at multiples (or powers) of 1KB for added data (actual passwords, password history, notes, etc.) you could mostly avoid disclosing information even about URL lengths, etc. You could probably reasonably obscure a lot by doubling the larger file's size as the minimum increment and for most scenarios the file size would still be pretty trivial by modern networking/storage standards. Would stink for binary storage or images, etc. but there are different solutions available for that.

Re: 1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser

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Am I the only one in here who loves their hosted solutions? We use Teams at work and I use Family for my wife and I. It's important to me that I have access to certain passwords on my desktop, laptop and phone. These items also need to be accessible to others who should be able to view/edit. There's no way to do with without some sort of cloud solution and so the decision becomes which cloud solution. I used to use D…

I love it too. I completely understand why some people want to avoid a hosted solution, but it makes sense for me and my family. I've probably recouped the subscription cost in the time savings compared to having to troubleshoot my wife's setup every couple of months.

Re: 1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of commercial software is not supported on Linux. The vast majority of it, even. At one point I ran the legacy Windows version under Wine, which even worked with the Chrome extension. Had to disable some extension security policy in Chrome though.

Yeah, I saw that was an option, but installing Wine and all its dependencies (~750 MB of space) just to run a legacy Windows app is a non-starter, for obvious reasons.

Wrong again, there have been cross-platform wrappers for the (very well documented) 1P format for a LONG TIME, see here[0].

Slightly non-intuitive, but functional.

[0]: https://github.com/georgebrock/1pass

Re: 1Password X: A look at the future of 1Password in the browser

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post #35

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Standalone user here since 1Password 2.0, using it both on iOS and OSX. I feel that it receives pretty frequent updates, and doesn't suffer from feature bloat. It even synchronizes great with Dropbox. What are people's gripes with AgileBits' support of the standalone version?

People see progress happening on something they don’t use (because standalone is basically feature-complete) and just want to gripe. I’ve been a stand-alone user for literally as long as I can remember and have never had a single issue with 1P.

Same. I have a tough time empathizing with people who expect free upgrades forever (especially if purchased many years prior) if they don’t articulate how those upgrades should be funded.

I think it comes from a desktop software mentality, where things remained rather static relative to mobile’s rapid changes.

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