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Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by rhencke » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 6:25 PM UTC

frik wrote: post #70

abdelhai wrote: post #31

Atom announced "Teletype" today: https://blog.atom.io/2017/11/15/code-together-in-real-time-w...

While Atom's Teletype works today. VSC Live Share is still unreleased "vamporware" (a term coined by MSFT). The ripping of Atom, rebranding it as VSC and doing a press release for such vital new feature is I guess pure coincidence, and not a typical tactic they are known for, right? Edit: > That's just patently false. Curious, how can it be patently false when "Visual Studio Code is based on technology from Github’s…

How on earth is VS Code a 'ripping and rebranding of Atom'?

That's just patently false.

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by dotnetisnotdead » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 6:33 PM UTC

This could be super useful for code reviews. I wonder how well it works across continents (I'm guessing fairly well).

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by jonwchu » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 6:36 PM UTC

igloofoo wrote: post #40

Privacy concerns: how is a public link more secure than a Skype screen share? And what exactly gets associated to the link? Is it a tunnel straight into my computer? Is it pushing my VS workspace somewhere? More details please. This seems more appropriate for getting help on small, isolated code snippets rather than collaborating on a project.

We authenticate when people try to use the link. We are exploring ideas on how to enable fine-grain permissions for sharing.

The link is an association between team members who are in a live share session. The workspace (i.e. source files) is not stored in the cloud. During a live share session, the communication is facilitated by an Azure Relay in the cloud. We are also looking at the ability to have peer-to-peer communication if you are on the same network.

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by recursive » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 6:39 PM UTC

peterkelly wrote: post #64

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the development teams behind the top two open source editors introduce support for collaborative editing on the dame day, apparently unaware that they were both working on the same thing, and there being no evidence of collaboration between the two?

What's the other one?

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by thewookiee » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 6:40 PM UTC

lostintangent wrote: post #5

PM on the Visual Studio Live Share team here. Thanks for posting! We're really excited to hear folks thoughts about this experience, how it can help improve their existing team collaboration workflows, and how we can continue to improve/learn. So please sign up and/or let us know what you think :) We've heard pretty loud and clear that developers want better collaboration tools, without needing to switch editors, wit…

Awesome! Really looking forward to trying this out. I saw your talk at the Node Interactive conference in Vancouver and really enjoyed it, you guys are killing it.

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by pingec » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 6:40 PM UTC

dotnetisnotdead wrote: post #72

This could be super useful for code reviews. I wonder how well it works across continents (I'm guessing fairly well).

Should work much better in theory! Screen sharing is really inefficient for this purpose.

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by ovao » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 6:42 PM UTC

recursive wrote: post #74

peterkelly wrote: post #64

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the development teams behind the top two open source editors introduce support for collaborative editing on the dame day, apparently unaware that they were both working on the same thing, and there being no evidence of collaboration between the two?

What's the other one?

Teletype for Atom.

https://teletype.atom.io/

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by Maarius » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 6:45 PM UTC

recursive wrote: post #74

peterkelly wrote: post #64

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the development teams behind the top two open source editors introduce support for collaborative editing on the dame day, apparently unaware that they were both working on the same thing, and there being no evidence of collaboration between the two?

What's the other one?

Atom Teletype, discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15704730

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by kosinus » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 6:45 PM UTC

bsaul wrote: post #46

If a product manager from Apple is reading this : Please, I beg you, do NOT try to replicate this feature. Get back to fixing the critical bugs and slowdown of the os, xcode and swift toolchains.

They already have collaborative editing in their productivity apps, so they may have already poked at the idea.

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by TimTheTinker » Wed, Nov 15, 2017, 6:47 PM UTC

frik wrote: post #70

abdelhai wrote: post #31

Atom announced "Teletype" today: https://blog.atom.io/2017/11/15/code-together-in-real-time-w...

While Atom's Teletype works today. VSC Live Share is still unreleased "vamporware" (a term coined by MSFT). The ripping of Atom, rebranding it as VSC and doing a press release for such vital new feature is I guess pure coincidence, and not a typical tactic they are known for, right? Edit: > That's just patently false. Curious, how can it be patently false when "Visual Studio Code is based on technology from Github’s…

Regarding Teletype vs LiveShare, your statements aren’t fair based on what I’ve read. It appears the teams have been working in isolation. Also the MS team’s deadline was planned to coincide with the MS Connect conference. (Maybe Atom’s announcement was planned to coincide with QConSF?)