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Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by lostintangent »

azinman2 wrote: post #58
lostintangent wrote: post #5

PM on the Visual Studio Live Share team here. Thanks for posting! We're really excited to hear folks thoughts about this experience, how it can help improve their existing team collaboration workflows, and how we can continue to improve/learn. So please sign up and/or let us know what you think :) We've heard pretty loud and clear that developers want better collaboration tools, without needing to switch editors, wit…

Important question: if I have configured my editor with the one true way (VIM), and the remote has some dumb evil way setup (not VIM), are we able to be separately good and evil?

Absolutely! Live Share allows developers to quickly/easily collaborate with each other, while continuing to use their pre-configured editor, which includes themes, key maps, extensions, etc. This way, everyone can feel completely at home while working together.

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by peterkelly »

lostintangent wrote: post #44
abdelhai wrote: post #31

Atom announced "Teletype" today: https://blog.atom.io/2017/11/15/code-together-in-real-time-w...

It's really exciting to see the energy being directed at improving developer collaboration!

Did the two teams collaborate to make the editors protocol-compatible?

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by frik »

lostintangent wrote: post #5

PM on the Visual Studio Live Share team here. Thanks for posting! We're really excited to hear folks thoughts about this experience, how it can help improve their existing team collaboration workflows, and how we can continue to improve/learn. So please sign up and/or let us know what you think :) We've heard pretty loud and clear that developers want better collaboration tools, without needing to switch editors, wit…

Is it relaying the data over Microsoft (or Azure/Skype/etc) server? Or is it a point-to-point / peer-to-peer connection?

And if it relays the shared data over Microsoft server, what data beside currently opened source code files and keyboard + mouse inputs is transfered? Will it also transfer more source code files (e.g. whole VS project)?

I have to say this feature reminds me of the hollywood movie "Startup" (2001): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218817/

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by peterkelly »

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the development teams behind the top two open source editors introduce support for collaborative editing on the dame day, apparently unaware that they were both working on the same thing, and there being no evidence of collaboration between the two?

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by JosephHatfield »

lostintangent wrote: post #5

PM on the Visual Studio Live Share team here. Thanks for posting! We're really excited to hear folks thoughts about this experience, how it can help improve their existing team collaboration workflows, and how we can continue to improve/learn. So please sign up and/or let us know what you think :) We've heard pretty loud and clear that developers want better collaboration tools, without needing to switch editors, wit…

This seems super helpful when swarming compared to squeezing everyone on the team into one office. Will collaborators all be required to be running admin level accounts? That might be a problem in shops (mine!) where admin access is rarely granted to devs.

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by dagaci »

lostintangent wrote: post #5

PM on the Visual Studio Live Share team here. Thanks for posting! We're really excited to hear folks thoughts about this experience, how it can help improve their existing team collaboration workflows, and how we can continue to improve/learn. So please sign up and/or let us know what you think :) We've heard pretty loud and clear that developers want better collaboration tools, without needing to switch editors, wit…

Does this require full internet access or can this work peer-to-peer for developers working behind the firewall.

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by jacobr »

How well do these tools generally handle poor latency?

I often work remotely over 3G/4G. Voice is fine, as is simple screen sharing of stuff like Trello boards in a meeting. I tried Slack's screen collaboration and it was hardly usable though.

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by TimTheTinker »

peterkelly wrote: post #62
lostintangent wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really exciting to see the energy being directed at improving developer collaboration!

Did the two teams collaborate to make the editors protocol-compatible?

Atom’s new Teletype protocol is open, so at minimum a Teletype-compatible plugin could be developed for VSCode.

Note - the Teletype plugin initiates the connection via GitHub’s servers, but then the rest of the communication is entirely peer-to-peer via WebRTC. (I hope LiveShare uses a similar approach...?)

Re: Visual Studio Live Share

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Post by frik »

abdelhai wrote: post #31

Atom announced "Teletype" today: https://blog.atom.io/2017/11/15/code-together-in-real-time-w...

While Atom's Teletype works today. VSC Live Share is still unreleased "vamporware" (a term coined by MSFT). The ripping of Atom, rebranding it as VSC and doing a press release for such vital new feature is I guess pure coincidence, and not a typical tactic they are known for, right?

Edit:

> That's just patently false.

Curious, how can it be patently false when "Visual Studio Code is based on technology from Github’s Atom editor".

https://thenextweb.com/apps/2015/04/30/microsofts-cross-plat...

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