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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by mkup »

SllX wrote: post #776
mkup wrote: post #534

Firefox Quantum feels very fast, but addon support is disappointing :( + uBlock Origin - Self-Destructing Cookies - YesScript - Video DownloadHelper - Save Session

Self-Destructing Cookies isn't supported anymore. I just found that out myself a bit earlier and am giving Cookies AutoDelete a shot. Edit: Forgot to mention but if you check the add-ons site, you should be able to find an updated extension for Video DownloadHelper.

Thanks, list is much better now:

  + uBlock Origin
  + Cookies AutoDelete
  + Video DownloadHelper
  - YesScript
  - Save Session
Remaining addons are not that essential, especially in comparison to much faster Firefox.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by submeta »

This post made me switch from Safari to Firefox. (I abandoned Chrome several years ago. Don't like Google's philosophy.) Hadn't really been using FF in ages. It has made tremendous improvements. Super fast startup and navigation.

Also installed a plugin named Vim Vixen. Now I am able to navigate and use the browser almost without touching the mouse.

Thank you Mozilla. Keep up the good work!

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by moosingin3space »

MadWombat wrote: post #485
alexandrerond wrote: post #422

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Years of work to make Firefox the fastest browser. Countless research and engineering hours. With actual amazing, noticeable results as soon as you try it. With a bunch of useful UI features. "But tabs aren't curved, so fuck these guys! I won't upgrade!" Oh well...

I didn't have any complaints about speed. Who actually cares about browser speed? But I do care that suddenly, my browser looks completely different, half the functionality I use is missing and there is no way for me to get it back. The fact that this happened as an automatic upgrade without as much as asking me whether or not I want it to happen is not exactly a winning point either. Edit: It seems that I was too ha…

> Who actually cares about browser speed?

This, from Hacker News, who not one week ago was complaining about "everything being perceptibly slower" and who constantly complains about latency in applications. Pretty sure everyone cares about browser speed.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by johndoe489 »

Is it possible in Firefox to remember the "pinned" state of a tab matching a bookmark when it is closed?

It' be awesome if some of my bookmarks always open in a pinned state. Examples: rain.today (white noise). ... But I don't want them to be there everytime I open the browser, hence to remember the pinned preference with bookmarks.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by coldtea »

kk_cz wrote: post #785
coldtea wrote: post #504

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Who actually cares about browser speed? Millions of people who've switched to Chrome. Including hundreds that have said as much in HN comments over the last 5 years.

great. let them use Chrome then. FF was strong in customization. I don't care if site refresh takes 20ms or 50ms - I can't notice. I do care very much if you break all of my current extensions and as a result the UI behavior I was used to is gone. It's like being forced to switch to a completely new browsers. If I wanted different browser I could have switched to Chrome years ago, thank you very much. Customization i…

>Customization is much more important than speed.

Obviously it's not, since the majority of Firefox user base (which used to be very high) jumped to Chrome 5-10 years ago, despite the first having customizations (add-ons) and the latter not yet (and when it added, incompatible ones).

In fact, by mozilla's own estimates (based on telemetry), only about 33% or so of their users even use add-ons.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by johndoe489 »

a254613e wrote: post #448
cryptos wrote: post #11

I hope that firefox will continue to protect users privacy as good as possible. I'm thinking of super cookies and the like. Other brother vendors don't seem to be very engaged in this area.

With their recent testing of Cliqz integration I doubt they're really committed a lot to protecting users privacy. HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15421708

Isn't that turned off when you disable "search suggestions"?

I don't like search suggestions even in Chrome. I find it makes the omnibar less useful.

The omnibar was the game changer for me when Chrome did it. I never have many tabs open as I can recall anything I've visited previously by typing a few words. More often than not what I want is one of the first suggestions.

So to help with this, I turn off search suggestions since they are not relevant to my past browser activity. I also got in the habit of frequently using Private window so that my History has more relevant content. It's great and I'm confident I don't need to bookmark a lot.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by johndoe489 »

The omnibar is less convenient than Google Chrome: it appears that pressing DELETE does not actually remove a search suggestion from History. Instead it seems to be ranked down. This is not useful, there should be a way to completely remove a suggestion (unless it is currently a bookmark).

In Google Chrome I navigate with the omnibar so much, it was the game changer for me when Chrome was new. The ability to quickly recall any page I visited before. Coupled with the ability to finetune these suggestions by removing unwanted entries.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by johndoe489 »

yoasif_ wrote: post #721
johndoe489 wrote: post #684

1) Is it possible to change the shortcut for Private window to CTRL Shift N somehow like in Chrome? (instead of Ctrl Shift P). (I like that I could use that shortcut with my left hand (albeit with some nice thumb extension action).) 2) Any way to remove the bottom bar icons when the omni bar completion box shows? ... wait... How do I even edit search engines in Firefox? Like say, typing "yt (space) search term" to do…

2) https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-search-from-address...

Yeah this isn't the same at all. For example I don't know how to add a custom search like:

http://www.stopforumspam.com/ipcheck/%s

When I add a search via right clicking the search box on that site it doesn't work.

Plus, the completion UX is great on Chrome, as soon as you press space or tab aftert he keyword it confirms with a special UX "Search Wikipediea" for example. Here, you get no feedback whatsoever... if I type sfs 1.1.1.1 is it going to google that, or is it actually going to search StopForumSpam for the IP ? I have no idea until I press enter. :(

UPDATE

Looks like you have to use "keywords for bookmarks"

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_keyword_searches

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by MadWombat »

forapurpose wrote: post #732
MadWombat wrote: post #609

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have a hard time seeing how any of that would be preferable. Not to you. But not everyone cares about the same things. I have used Firefox as my main browser ever since it split off from Mozilla Suite. Personally, I have never, in the whole history of Firefox had a problem with its speed. At various points I might have had some problems with stability, some problems with compatibility and some problems with memor…

> A warning of some sort would be nice before breaking so much functionality There have been periodic warnings on HN's front page for two years.

No. A warning from the software itself. Something in the tube of "This is a major upgrade that drastically changes the browsing experience and breaks compatibility with addons you might rely on. Do you want to upgrade?". Instead, what I got was "Please restart Firefox to complete the upgrade".

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by MadWombat »

kelnos wrote: post #674
MadWombat wrote: post #609

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have a hard time seeing how any of that would be preferable. Not to you. But not everyone cares about the same things. I have used Firefox as my main browser ever since it split off from Mozilla Suite. Personally, I have never, in the whole history of Firefox had a problem with its speed. At various points I might have had some problems with stability, some problems with compatibility and some problems with memor…

> Personally, I have never, in the whole history of Firefox had a problem with its speed. That's... weird. To put it nicely. I've been using Mozilla since early in its milestone phases, and Firefox since it came out. Firefox was originally a pretty nimble browser, but fairly quickly became super slow. When Chrome came out I couldn't believe the difference in speed. Everything from UI responsiveness to rendering speed…

> That's... weird. To put it nicely.

I tried to explain it and I am not sure whether I am doing a bad job at it or people just don't believe me. I don't think browser speed matters. Even in the slowest days of Firefox, the time it took for content to download was longer or at least comparable to rendering time. Even now, with broadband access everywhere, if I look at dev tools, network access takes much longer than page rendering for most pages I access. So why should I care if rendering takes an extra second or two if it already takes just as long to actually get the content across the net. I do not expect web pages to be instantaneous, simply because they never are and so I do not get annoyed at render speed.

I do get annoyed when a forced upgrade removes features I relied on in my workflow.

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