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Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by otto_ortega »

subway wrote: post #97
subway wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know plenty of folks who've ridden motorcycles helmetless for years without any issue. It's a collection of script written in a non-idempotent manner, and run in an uncontrolled, undefined environment. The benefit of binary packages is that you have a reasonable idea that the package will consistently build in a well defined environment (the base build chroot for the OS + the defined dependencies in the package). T…

https://github.com/folkswithhats/fedy/blob/master/plugins/an... I made it 10 lines into the very first plugin before hitting a point where the installer script is downloading a file over an insecure connection, and treating it as a list of trusted URLs.

And look where those nefarious links are pointing!! developer.android.com and dl.google.com...

As I said, if you feel safer because you run all those commands manually, it is ok...

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by mrmondo »

Congrats to all involved, I’m especially proud that the choice was made to delay the release in favour of quality. To me that says so much about the motives and dedication of the people working on the project(s). Compare this say to Debian when they released Jessie - it wasn’t at all ready for release, missing packages, a broken SELinux ecosystem and some of these they classed as release critical - apparently not when it came down to it.

Anyway, fantastic work all - a fantastic distro that I believe in many ways sets an example for others (especially security wise). I look forward to all the hard work making its way into RHEL & CentOS in time to come.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by brightball »

I’m running into issues with the upgrade from 26. “Offline” kept giving me an error about distro-sync being and invalid argument. Online mostly worked but I stepped away and came back to the terminal window just being gone. Now I’m at this stuck spot where the fedora-upgrade says “Can’t upgrade from version 2627” which I assume is some in between state?

Didn’t have any issues with the 25-26 upgrade fwiw.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by thomasmeeks »

baldfat wrote: post #89
ddavis wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've used Arch Linux (with Gnome 3, i3, dwm, Xfce, Cinnamon, Mate) for 6 years now and it has (or any of the DE's/WM's have) _never_ bugged out on me (many different laptops and desktops as well). I've only once had a destroyed installation and it was completely my fault. I would actually recommend Arch Linux as a great distribution for getting real work done. I know academic research groups that use it as OS for the…

I no longer use Arch Linux due to breakage. In the six years you didn't have a problem when they switched to systemd and bugged all the config files to null? There have been several times when I pacman -Syu and didn't read the front page and there goes 15 minute to 3 hours. I had several HUGE reports due and I ended up having to go on a different machine and git pull to get them done it time. I never recommend Arch L…

Yah, agreed. I've used arch for a long time as well, and gentoo before it. I've actually had less breakage with gentoo back in the day.

Their notification system for breaking changes is truly awful (or rather, does not exist). I've been bitten 3 times, each taking a few hours+ and a lot of reading to figure out. I find all of the things you're supposed to "just know" or check before running a `pacman -Syu` to be pretty silly. The official attitude towards these sorts of issues appear to be dismissive, which is what convinced me to finally drop it.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by lima »

jacek wrote: post #32
lima wrote: post #29

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Qt works fine for me. Have you set your Xft DPI? $ cat .Xresources Xft.dpi: 144 Xft.hinting: 1 Xft.hintstyle: hintslight Xft.antialias: 1 Xft.rgba: none Xcursor.size: 48 Xcursor.theme: Adwaita

Thanks lima. .Xresources does not work on Wayland. In my case Qt apps work ok until I connect an external display. Here's before/after: https://imgur.com/a/bJb0J

Ow. Can't help with Wayland :(

It does work with X11 for me.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by type0 »

ddavis wrote: post #51
dualogy wrote: post #35

Major props to the Fedora project, really gotta get this off my chest as I had Yet Another "distro-hopping just still ain't worth it even in 2017" moment yesterday. Somehow I have accumulated 4 laptops still-in-running-condition currently. Every rare once in a while, on a lazy weekend or when caught with a cold, I feel I should experimentally check out other distros and/or DE/WM combos than the singular one that has…

I've used Arch Linux (with Gnome 3, i3, dwm, Xfce, Cinnamon, Mate) for 6 years now and it has (or any of the DE's/WM's have) _never_ bugged out on me (many different laptops and desktops as well). I've only once had a destroyed installation and it was completely my fault. I would actually recommend Arch Linux as a great distribution for getting real work done. I know academic research groups that use it as OS for the…

> I know academic research groups that use it as OS for the boxes in their labs and they've never had problems with stability or things working out the box.

They're been lucky then, but with Arch never say never. I hope more research boxes would run NixOS to ensure reproducible results.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by type0 »

jadbox wrote: post #50
dualogy wrote: post #35

Major props to the Fedora project, really gotta get this off my chest as I had Yet Another "distro-hopping just still ain't worth it even in 2017" moment yesterday. Somehow I have accumulated 4 laptops still-in-running-condition currently. Every rare once in a while, on a lazy weekend or when caught with a cold, I feel I should experimentally check out other distros and/or DE/WM combos than the singular one that has…

i3 with Fedora runs flawlessly for me out of the box: dnf install i3 i3status dmenu i3lock

> dmenu

try rofi instead, it has dmenu mode (rofi -dmenu) and so much more

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by type0 »

lima wrote: post #80
nickysielicki wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised you prefer arch linux for amateur radio stuff. Hamlib, wsjtx, and fldigi are packaged and in the main repositories on fedora, but the same is not true for arch linux. What software are you using that you find easier with arch linux?

Most important reason is that I haven't actually tried. Shack laptop is running Arch and a bunch of custom stuff that happened to compile fine on Arch. Your comment made me check, and even GNURadio and osmosdr is packaged in Fedora. Huh. Time to re-visit that decision :-)

Fedora is THE distro for radio enthusiasts :-)

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by _0w8t »

Gnome Shell is supposed to show case Wayland. Yet apparently it got fundamental architecture wrong to the point of Fedora documentation issuing an apology. From Common Fedora bugs page [1]:

> Otherwise, we advise that you may wish to consider using the GNOME on Xorg session (see above) rather than the default Wayland session; this should at least prevent the crashes from ending your GNOME session when they occur. We do apologize for any inconvenience and/or lost data caused by such Shell crashes.

In Fedora 26 I experienced those crashes few times out of the blue. It is annoying to say the least.

[1] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F27_bugs#Wayland_issue...

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