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Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

InitialLastName wrote: post #497
Santosh83 wrote: post #486

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>A big reason some users dislike ads isn't because of their entire existance but rather their tendency as of late to be malware-ridden or cause drops in webpage performance. These are the things that cause some users to enable ad-blockers, and Brave is the only way I've heard of that has pushed the envelope of a BETTER ad experience. AdBlock Plus also does something equivalent through their default option to show "Un…

The problem with AdBlock Plus is that, as far as I can tell, the way to get on their "unobtrusive ads" list isn't to actually be "unobtrusive" to any meaningful standard, it's to pay them to qualify you as unobtrusive.

IIRC, you pay them (not a lot) to check out your ads and verify that they are, in fact, unobtrusive. I realize it's distasteful that money changes hands at all, but I can imagine it takes a non-trivial amount of person-hours to vet these things on a large scale, and it should be easy enough to tell if they're crooked or not just by using ABP and seeing if the permitted ads are intrusive.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by talonx »

Kluny wrote: post #521
Santosh83 wrote: post #447

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Indeed this is the main point, and the reason I've stuck with Firefox ever since it launched, despite being rather slow a few years back. This is the only browser engine that is not shaped by major corporate interests. And frankly it has no major downsides as compared to Chrome. The latter only enjoys the market share it does (in my opinion) because of being aggressively pushed on Google.com and being bundled everywh…

I gave Firefox a try a month or two ago when people started saying it was good again. I think I had a problem with uBlock origin not working well enough - too much crap was getting through. What are people using for adblock?

AdBlock Plus was working well, until now, when they were forced to change the UI in 3.0 to be compatible with Firefox's new version. Now it is practically unusable.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

fencepost wrote: post #597
scottlamb wrote: post #538

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I think the idea that you only access personal stuff from your own devices on your own time is unrealistic. There are restricted environments (intelligence agencies and such) where it's necessary, but outside of those I think people commonly expect that if they get their work done and avoid illegal / pornographic / other NSFW content, they can do some personal browsing at work, typically on work-owned hardware. The c…

> I think the idea that you only access personal stuff from your own devices on your own time is unrealistic. Once upon a time that was the case - "Cyber Monday" as a prime case in point. Some limited amount of non-work browsing is generally still fine at most offices I deal with, most notably checking news, weather, sports scores, etc. However as a person responsible for making sure there are no breaches (particular…

I dunno. I can see your concern, but it seems to me like a Wal-Mart anti-theft guy saying we need to search all employees before allowing them to leave the store. I'm sure it would solve some problems and reduce your personal headaches, but that doesn't necessarily make it reasonable.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by jwillmer »

fbender wrote: post #615
jwillmer wrote: post #322

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Do they sync?

What do you mean by that? If your use case is not covered, you surely can write a WebExtension to provide the functionality. Containers as well as sync are exposed in the API.

I just wanted to know if the containers will be automatically synced across devices.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by krzyk »

cpeterso wrote: post #610
teamhappy wrote: post #458

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Nightly and beta releases are available as separate apps.

Google Play store link for Firefox Beta: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.fi... Google Play store link for Firefox Nightly: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.fe...

Wow, I didn't know Nightly got into play store, I installed it as an APK from mozilla site (upgrading APKs is painful in comparison to play upgrades).

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by kazagistar »

madeofpalk wrote: post #245
mapgrep wrote: post #52

I switched back to Firefox 54 from Chrome when multiprocess browsing ("Electrolysis") came out of beta. It's been absolutely great. It's fast and I trust and like the nonprofit behind it. And all the extensions I care about are available. My main issue with Chrome was the endless nags to sign in to a Google account, and just generally wanting less dependence on Google. I also like that Firefox has a built in tracking…

> I also like that Firefox has a built in tracking protection (not just Do Not Track toggle but actual blocking of trackers Here's something I find curious. When Apple does it, it's because they want to kill the open web and drive more people to their closed Apple News platform. When Mozilla does it, it's because they're saints. How am I able to reconcile these two?

Because more then one person has opinions on the Internet, so sometimes you hear inconsistent opinions.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by baq »

zaarn wrote: post #620
Vogtinator wrote: post #619

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That doesn't have anything to do with experience, that's just a fact. Advertisers pay ABP to get on the list.

Yeah but that doesn't change the fact about the requirements to even be able to pay to get on the list.

It's a trust issue in summary. You either trust them to do a good job at screening or not.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by bovine3dom »

sverige wrote: post #409
mgbmtl wrote: post #238

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I was feeling the same, but FF57 really is much better. It does break some extensions, but many have converted. Which are you having trouble with? The main one I'm missing is "Disable Ctrl+Q". My notes: https://www.bidon.ca/fr/random/2017-10-05-webextensions-supp...

The main one I've been missing is Pentadactyl (for quite a while). Vimium-FF is ok I guess. My main objection is still the sheer size and the amount of memory it takes, and the continual feature creep to make it more and more like Chrome. I know I'm in the minority, and also that it's heresy to say anything bad about Mozilla here. Oh well. I only wish I had lots of money and/or time so I could help revive the develop…

Have you looked at Qutebrowser if you want a standalone browser?

Other options for Vim-like web extensions are Saka key, Vim-Vixen and Tridactyl.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by nachtigall »

nkkollaw wrote: post #445
unicornporn wrote: post #384

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I easily reach a hundred tabs with Tree Style Tabs when researching a topic. The tree structure makes it easy to understand how you've navigated the web and to traceback where you came from. When I found what I've what I was looking for I start closing tabs. The ones that remain is my catch and I save the URLs and/or contents.

Gotcha. Interesting. :-)

Just for completeness:

* Firefox's Awesomebar (the address bar) is much more powerful. Whereas Chromes sends you to google mainly: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/awesome-bar-search-fire...

* Tree Style Tab: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by inferiorhuman »

jwillmer wrote: post #624
fbender wrote: post #615

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What do you mean by that? If your use case is not covered, you surely can write a WebExtension to provide the functionality. Containers as well as sync are exposed in the API.

I just wanted to know if the containers will be automatically synced across devices.

I can't even get them to persist after restarting FF. :/
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