On html5test.com, FF56 scores 478 (on my windows 7 machine). Does FF57 increase compliance at all, or is this purely a performance boost?
You can see here: http://html5test.com/results/desktop.html FF57 gives me 483
That chart only shows up to FF55.
How Firefox Got Fast Again
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#602I switched back to Firefox 54 from Chrome when multiprocess browsing ("Electrolysis") came out of beta. It's been absolutely great. It's fast and I trust and like the nonprofit behind it. And all the extensions I care about are available. My main issue with Chrome was the endless nags to sign in to a Google account, and just generally wanting less dependence on Google. I also like that Firefox has a built in tracking…
I am not Pro-Google or Pro-Chrome by any means, but I think builtin tracking blockers is a bad idea because we'll be destroying the internet's primary model of monetization. At least AdBlock plays nice with Google, Facebook, and other advertisers who are not intrusive and slow down page speed with a million trackers. That being said, I think it's hard to trust any organization whether open or not; It's blind faith. Firefox has attempted browser login through Mozilla before with Persona, Google's not the first to push cloud browser personalization.
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Performance is a Red Queen problem. [1] People keep expecting more from computers. On the web, pages keep getting bigger and more complicated. Firefox's competition isn't going to stop trying to improve performance, and people's baseline for "fast" will mainly be other things they use. If Mozilla isn't always trying to be faster, they're going to be getting slower. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen_hypothes…
Jevon's Paradox [0] is probably more appropriate. As resources become more plentiful (available performance-units, whether delivered through faster software or faster hardware), demand counter-intuitively increase, in part because the cheaper per-unit price makes people feel they can use the resource more freely. This phenomenon describes why no matter how fast our computers get, it's unlikely that they will ever be…
Both are definitely relevant, but since you insist on ranking them, the Red Queen phenomenon is more relevant to his question, which is about how Firefox is portraying themselves in the marketplace, which is a competitive environment.
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From what I've read, Brave doesn't block ads -- it replaces them with other ads. I don't think that it's a good idea. Firefox for Android also allows browser extensions, which gives some control of the software back to the user.
Except that it does actually block ads and doesn't replace them. Don't believe everything you read on the Internet when you can just try the product :)
> Don't believe everything you read on the Internet when you can just try the product
I read about it on their own website:
https://www.brave.com/about-ad-replacement/
"Brave’s goal is to speed up the web, stop bad ads and pay publishers. One of the ways we plan to accomplish this is with ad replacements."
"Step Two: Brave Replaces Ads"
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Thanks. Right, that's it, I'm probably on my way back.
It's actually had it for years (probably even always, almost certainly since about 1.5) via middle-clicking the refresh button.
Well, Firefox has existed since before tabs were a thing in browsers, so can't have been always, but yeah, wouldn't surprise me, if this was relatively quickly added after the introduction of tabs.
These kind of hidden features don't require a whole lot of designing and forethought, so it's something that usually only really needs one dev thinking that it'd be nifty to have them implement it.
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#606I have been using chrome for years. I would regularly use other browsers for testing or other reasons but always came back to chrome because it was the fastest for me. After hearing someone here mention how fast the new Firefox was, I downloaded Nightly and I never went back to Chrome.
Before firefox was ugly and slow, now it's fast and slick. So glad that I'm not giving google all of my browser data anymore.
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Indeed this is the main point, and the reason I've stuck with Firefox ever since it launched, despite being rather slow a few years back. This is the only browser engine that is not shaped by major corporate interests. And frankly it has no major downsides as compared to Chrome. The latter only enjoys the market share it does (in my opinion) because of being aggressively pushed on Google.com and being bundled everywh…
I gave Firefox a try a month or two ago when people started saying it was good again. I think I had a problem with uBlock origin not working well enough - too much crap was getting through. What are people using for adblock?
I think I know what you're referring to, if you were using one of the unstable (beta, nightly, developer edition) channels with Firefox 57. There was a brief period I noticed during which the uBlock Origin WebExtension edition wasn't fully up to par with the old XUL-based version, letting some ads slip through. That's been fixed since then.
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BTW: if using Android, if FF is not for you, try Brave instead of Chrome. It feels exactly like Chrome (it's Chromium-based), but has a built-in adblocker, tracker blocking, HTTPS everywhere, no nagging to sign in, and does not throw "suggested news" (with no opt-out) upon you. Brave's founder is ex-Mozilla's CEO (Brendan Eich). However latest FF on Android is actually not bad, at least if you have a modern phone (th…
I have moved entirely to Firefox Focus. My only problem is that the GOOGLE BAR on my home screen still throws trending suggestions and opens up chrome. Does anyone know if I can change this?
I don't know about Focus, but you can configure Firefox for Android to act as a replacement for the Chrome Custom Tabs API, which apps use to launch those mini-Chrome windows. Caveat: I use the Nightly builds, and I'm unsure how new this feature is.
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BTW: if using Android, if FF is not for you, try Brave instead of Chrome. It feels exactly like Chrome (it's Chromium-based), but has a built-in adblocker, tracker blocking, HTTPS everywhere, no nagging to sign in, and does not throw "suggested news" (with no opt-out) upon you. Brave's founder is ex-Mozilla's CEO (Brendan Eich). However latest FF on Android is actually not bad, at least if you have a modern phone (th…
i would be using FF on Android if the scrolling was not so crappy. It's pretty terrible :(
Have you tried the Nightly or Beta builds?
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Do you have to install the nightly build manually or can you opt-in via the default version?
Nightly and beta releases are available as separate apps.
Google Play store link for Firefox Beta: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.fi...
Google Play store link for Firefox Nightly: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.fe...