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How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by balajics »

Using 57 for few days, speed improvements are impressive.

But two things which is going to stop me from complete switch.

1. There is no native websocket inspector. websocket-monitor[0] add-on which supported websocket inspection is not compatible with quantum. Really wish they speed up native support development[1]

2. Double tap zoom really makes it easy to find UI issues. Really wish it get implemented in firefox too.

[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/websocket-mon...

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885508

[edit] corrected link

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by milofeynman »

jakub_g wrote: post #401
tspike wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the reminder. I just downloaded the latest FF beta and exiled Chrome to an "only when needed" role. All the back-and-forth about speed and features is understandable, but misses the point that Firefox needs our support if we are to have any real non-proprietary options for what is quickly becoming the base system abstraction layer for most computing.

BTW: if using Android, if FF is not for you, try Brave instead of Chrome. It feels exactly like Chrome (it's Chromium-based), but has a built-in adblocker, tracker blocking, HTTPS everywhere, no nagging to sign in, and does not throw "suggested news" (with no opt-out) upon you. Brave's founder is ex-Mozilla's CEO (Brendan Eich). However latest FF on Android is actually not bad, at least if you have a modern phone (th…

I have moved entirely to Firefox Focus. My only problem is that the GOOGLE BAR on my home screen still throws trending suggestions and opens up chrome. Does anyone know if I can change this?

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by SkyMarshal »

mapgrep wrote: post #52

I switched back to Firefox 54 from Chrome when multiprocess browsing ("Electrolysis") came out of beta. It's been absolutely great. It's fast and I trust and like the nonprofit behind it. And all the extensions I care about are available. My main issue with Chrome was the endless nags to sign in to a Google account, and just generally wanting less dependence on Google. I also like that Firefox has a built in tracking…

54 is not even fast compared to 57 ("Quantum", launching tomorrow 11/14). Seriously if you think 54 is fast, 57 blows it out of the water.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/quantum/

https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/quantum-performance-test/

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by aroman »

_frog wrote: post #365
ArmandGrillet wrote: post #144

I just installed Firefox 57 (thanks jacek for the link) and the first things I noticed are: - The cross to close a tab and the one to create a tab are aligned in a weird way. - Opening a tab is laggy (I'm on a MBP with an Intel Iris chip and 16GB of RAM). - The scrolling still does not feel native (I'm on macOS High Sierra). I'm very impressed by the work that has been done for this release as a dev but this does not…

The scrolling thing is a real shame, and it’s shocking to me that they haven’t implemented bouncy overscrolling when macOS has had it for something like 6 years.

Not sure why people were downvoting you. It's literally the only app on my machine that doesn't do this, and it is probably the #1 reason I don't want to switch to it. It's a major usability penalty for some macOS users.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by batiudrami »

rehemiau wrote: post #516
codexon wrote: post #422

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think most people don't know this, but you need to download the nightly, NOT the regular version of Firefox (56 as of now) to see the speed increase. The regular Firefox is much slower than Chrome still. The nightly is now noticeably faster than Chrome.

This all mozilla's bragging about speed is premature. They should've published this article after firefox 57 reaches stable.

57 stable starts rolling out today (14/11).

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by euske »

Browsers I have been using...

2002: phoenix-0.1 (former name of Firebird) and Lynx

2003: Firebird-0.6 (former name of Firefox) and Lynx

2004: Firefox-1.0 and Lynx

...

2017: Firefox-57.0

and Lynx, yes.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by ahartmetz »

milofeynman wrote: post #562
jakub_g wrote: post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BTW: if using Android, if FF is not for you, try Brave instead of Chrome. It feels exactly like Chrome (it's Chromium-based), but has a built-in adblocker, tracker blocking, HTTPS everywhere, no nagging to sign in, and does not throw "suggested news" (with no opt-out) upon you. Brave's founder is ex-Mozilla's CEO (Brendan Eich). However latest FF on Android is actually not bad, at least if you have a modern phone (th…

I have moved entirely to Firefox Focus. My only problem is that the GOOGLE BAR on my home screen still throws trending suggestions and opens up chrome. Does anyone know if I can change this?

Install a non-exotic alternative launcher. I use Nova, it's very similar to the Google launcher and well polished. Not sure if all vendor images allow it. I have a Moto G5 with the vendor image.

I find it quite interesting that Android even has all the interfaces and permissions to allow alternative launchers. What a great feature in this generally fairly locked-down space of non-PC OSes.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by _virtu »

scottlamb wrote: post #538
fencepost wrote: post #261

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The signing into an account in Chrome almost got someone fired at a small customer of mine a few weeks ago. Fortunately they called me first to look into it, I pointed out that the porn bookmarks in question were years old and that since Chrome was signed into a personal account it was pretty likely that the same account had been used by other family members at home. I also wrote this up for the owners to send to the…

I think the idea that you only access personal stuff from your own devices on your own time is unrealistic. There are restricted environments (intelligence agencies and such) where it's necessary, but outside of those I think people commonly expect that if they get their work done and avoid illegal / pornographic / other NSFW content, they can do some personal browsing at work, typically on work-owned hardware. The c…

I've been going back an forth between Chrome and Firefox for the past couple of months with the number of posts that I've seen on HN. Every time I always realize that Firefox doesn't have workspaces. This comment made me realize that containers are the alternative. Hopefully, I'll be able to switch over to FF more full time now that I have this solution. Thanks for this comment!

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Post by thaumasiotes »

fiatjaf wrote: post #202
e40 wrote: post #193

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The signing into an account in chrome is the killer feature for me. I have work and a couple of personal accounts that I have signed in in different browser windows. That allows me to keep things separate (extensions, mail, browsing, bookmarks, etc). How do FF users do this?

Firefox 58 has "persona" tabs. Coloured tabs that keep their own sessions. You can just configure multiple personas and work on them all simultaneously from the same window (or you can use different windows, if you prefer). It's good even for creating fake accounts, test accounts, testing apps from the perspective of different user sessions etc.

> You can just configure multiple personas and work on them all simultaneously from the same window

Really? I can configure two personas to go through two different proxies? I can disable javascript in one and leave it enabled in the other?

Those are features I need in Containers, but as far as I've been able to read, they aren't present and there are no plans to allow for them.

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