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How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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And prior to that you could run multiple Firefox instances with different profiles. Not super hard.

> you could run multiple Firefox instances with different profiles But not at the same time, which is a showstopper to me (still using Firefox Nightly as main browser).

You can absolutely run multiple different instances at the same time.

I've been using Firefox this way for over a year, 2 instances open right now.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Serious question, is this too little too late? Firefox has taken a massive nosedive in the last few years, in the UK at least. My two big clients have them on less than 2% share. Just checked one, 5 years ago they had 9.55% share, today it's 1.8%. Even taking into account the growth of mobile, that's dire.

FWIW, Firefox is still number one in Germany (desktop only) which is not an to be underrated economy.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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Very true. Chrome can never handle my 150+ tabs per window that Firefox can.

What do you do with 150 tabs? When I have 20 open I already start to get confused about where stuff is...

With Tree Style Tabs plus the Awesome bar it is not a problem to handle and it's easy to get up to this number over the day.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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So far, Chrome has better sandboxing support on most platforms (especially Linux), though Chrome's catching up quickly. I'm generally optimistic about Rust code having fewer exploitable defects, although it's a reasonable argument to suggest that the previous C++ parts had a lot more public scrutiny. Also, for me personally: I use a lot of different profiles and using multiple Firefox profiles simultaneously is a mes…

Is https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account... really broken? That was a test pilot experiment till two month ago, it would be very bad (and a bit ridiculous) if that addon were already broken.

Not broken. Using it on FF57 stable.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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I hope it will not take too long until FF gets hardware acceleration for videos on Linux (VAAPI/VDPAU). A few days ago I installed Arch Linux on a Netbook and was shocked to see that FF still doesn't have hardware acceleration for videos (VDPAU exists since 2008).

Some might say this is not much of an issue as most modern CPUs can handle 1080p, but actually pre-Ryzen AMD CPUs are too slow and power saving Intel CPUs Laptops are too slow too. So the only excuse might be, that nobody uses that open source OS, but especially from Mozilla I would not expect such an attitude towards open source software.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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How long will it take to forget about this again?

The whole story reminds me of something a project manager, who worked at the Google homepage, once said.

They worked their asses off to get the page smaller and smaller so the UX was unbeatable. Then, after they got enough users, they focused on different things, and more and more stuff was included.

Somehow Firefox went the same way, right?

First they created it so it would be small, fast and modular, then it got bloated to the max and now they set it on a diet again.

Don't get me wrong, I prefer Mozilla to Google, and I like that they even explored experimental stuff like Rust and Servo to get on the right track again.

But for how long?

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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IMHO, there is even too much focusing on speed. Firefox got _cool_ again. It looks great, the logo looks great, animations are great.

I look at the thing most of the day, looks are important just as much as speed.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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What do you do with 150 tabs? When I have 20 open I already start to get confused about where stuff is...

With Tree Style Tabs plus the Awesome bar it is not a problem to handle and it's easy to get up to this number over the day.

But, so I guess you open links in a new tab and don't bother closing them?

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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> This is the opportunity that the Chrome engineers foresaw. We saw it too, but we had a bumpier path to get there. Since we had an existing code base we needed to plan for how to split up that code base to take advantage of multiple cores

The "bumpier path" is that they removed XUL-based/legacy addons, only chrome-like addons (aka WebExtensions) are now supported on FF57. Personally i still have some extensions that are marked as Legacy, mainly for web development so m going be slightly affected with this release, i hope the performance gains are worth it.

Re: How Firefox Got Fast Again

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What do you do with 150 tabs? When I have 20 open I already start to get confused about where stuff is...

With Tree Style Tabs plus the Awesome bar it is not a problem to handle and it's easy to get up to this number over the day.

Came here to say that. Tree Style Tabs makes ut possible to navigate an unhealthy amount of tabs.
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