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I guess it's a case of waiting for the announcement before passing comment - but if this is a new OpenSolaris distribution what does it matter when Oracle/Sun still employ 99% of all active developers?
Sun looked like the ultimate geek-cool environment to work. Oracle is pretty much the ultimate uncool company to work for as a developer.
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It's approximately where RHEL5 (and maybe other enterprisey distros) is right now, which is an old version of gnome. I don't think that's a big problem to solve, provided they actually get more man-power.
Please. The version of GNOME you'll find in Sol 10 is way behind RHEL 5, the desktop / kernel integration is poor, and the amount of apps that actually make use of the desktop is minimal.
I looked it up and it looks like they have gnome 2.30 since their 2009.06 release[1] which is actually the latest version.
[1] http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=opensolaris
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FreeBSD supports ZFS v14, which lacks some of the features of ZFS on OpenSolaris, namely data deduplication. However, it is my understanding that porting later versions of ZFS to FreeBSD would require non trivial changes to the FreeBSD kernel, making it unlikely.
I'm sorry but could you elaborate on "porting later versions of ZFS to FreeBSD would require non trivial changes to the FreeBSD kernel"?
There's already work going on to port newer ZFS (w/deduplication) to FreeBSD. The biggest outlying question is if it will only be in 9, or if it might make it into 8.x.
Perhaps this is a inane question, but why should we care about Solaris? What does it bring to the table over BSD or Linux? If it died tomorrow would your shop close up and everyone go home? I know some of its features (DTrace and ZFS) are quite impressive but they are not really deal breakers. A kernel is great but it doesn't do much on its own. You still need applications and drivers to have a complete system.
Pretty much no reason. The deal breakers you mention have also been ported to FreeBSD and are said to be rather stable already.
http://hackerne.ws/item?id=1567463 (or scroll down)
Perhaps this is a inane question, but why should we care about Solaris? What does it bring to the table over BSD or Linux? If it died tomorrow would your shop close up and everyone go home? I know some of its features (DTrace and ZFS) are quite impressive but they are not really deal breakers. A kernel is great but it doesn't do much on its own. You still need applications and drivers to have a complete system.
> why should we care about Solaris? It's the only OS that can boot from a ZFS volume and that also has a sane package management system.
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> why should we care about Solaris? It's the only OS that can boot from a ZFS volume and that also has a sane package management system.
Are you suggesting packaging in debian or fedora has some issues? Can you elaborate in one or two lines? Thanks.
Perhaps this is a inane question, but why should we care about Solaris? What does it bring to the table over BSD or Linux? If it died tomorrow would your shop close up and everyone go home? I know some of its features (DTrace and ZFS) are quite impressive but they are not really deal breakers. A kernel is great but it doesn't do much on its own. You still need applications and drivers to have a complete system.
I guess it's a case of waiting for the announcement before passing comment - but if this is a new OpenSolaris distribution what does it matter when Oracle/Sun still employ 99% of all active developers?
Will 99% of osol developers stay with Oracle for long? Sun looked like the ultimate geek-cool environment to work. Oracle is pretty much the ultimate uncool company to work for as a developer.
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Please. The version of GNOME you'll find in Sol 10 is way behind RHEL 5, the desktop / kernel integration is poor, and the amount of apps that actually make use of the desktop is minimal.
We were discussing OpenSolaris, not Solaris 10. I looked it up and it looks like they have gnome 2.30 since their 2009.06 release[1] which is actually the latest version. [1] http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=opensolaris
Why not FreeBSD? Just to run Oracle? But it is much easier to run it on Linux nowadays. btw, who will write and debug all the new device drivers?