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Re: OpenSolaris fork imminent?

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Post by mapleoin »

zemanel wrote: post #2

i like OS but the desktop UX is where linux was years ago

It's approximately where RHEL5 (and maybe other enterprisey distros) is right now, which is an old version of gnome. I don't think that's a big problem to solve, provided they actually get more man-power.

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Post by barrkel »

zemanel wrote: post #2

i like OS but the desktop UX is where linux was years ago

I'd distinguish between OpenSolaris the distribution and Solaris the kernel; and my interest in this lies in the server side of things, not UI. I'm currently using Nexenta, which uses the Solaris kernel with a server-oriented Debian userland. The things Solaris brings along, ZFS, dtrace, SMF etc. are not hugely relevant to the desktop.

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Post by wrighty »

I guess it's a case of waiting for the announcement before passing comment - but if this is a new OpenSolaris distribution what does it matter when Oracle/Sun still employ 99% of all active developers?

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Post by microtonal »

barrkel wrote: post #4
zemanel wrote: post #2

i like OS but the desktop UX is where linux was years ago

I'd distinguish between OpenSolaris the distribution and Solaris the kernel; and my interest in this lies in the server side of things, not UI. I'm currently using Nexenta, which uses the Solaris kernel with a server-oriented Debian userland. The things Solaris brings along, ZFS, dtrace, SMF etc. are not hugely relevant to the desktop.

Debian/Solaris is where things should be heading IMO. It gives the package management and up-to-date userland of Debian, while bringing most of Solaris' assets.

And it seems that Nexenta developers would like to make Debian/Solaris a reality:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-derivatives/2010/06/msg00022....

Very promising!

Re: OpenSolaris fork imminent?

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Post by nailer »

c00p3r wrote: post #6

Why not FreeBSD? Just to run Oracle? But it is much easier to run it on Linux nowadays. btw, who will write and debug all the new device drivers?

I've modded you back up as I have the same question, albeit I think some explanation would help: FreeBSD has the good bits of the Solaris kernel - ZFS and DTrace - and the common Solaris 10 userspace - toolchain, packaging, etc. - aren't particularly up to date.

Re: OpenSolaris fork imminent?

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Post by nailer »

mapleoin wrote: post #3
zemanel wrote: post #2

i like OS but the desktop UX is where linux was years ago

It's approximately where RHEL5 (and maybe other enterprisey distros) is right now, which is an old version of gnome. I don't think that's a big problem to solve, provided they actually get more man-power.

Please. The version of GNOME you'll find in Sol 10 is way behind RHEL 5, the desktop / kernel integration is poor, and the amount of apps that actually make use of the desktop is minimal.

Re: OpenSolaris fork imminent?

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Post by Corrado »

Perhaps this is a inane question, but why should we care about Solaris? What does it bring to the table over BSD or Linux? If it died tomorrow would your shop close up and everyone go home?

I know some of its features (DTrace and ZFS) are quite impressive but they are not really deal breakers. A kernel is great but it doesn't do much on its own. You still need applications and drivers to have a complete system.

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