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YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by yathern »

cowpig wrote: post #155

I don't believe in this kind of censorship and that medium article just reads like a bunch of alarmist nonsense to me. I was exposed to tons of super-weird stuff on TV an the internet (adult swim, fat-pie, etc) and so were most of my friends growing up. I don't think it was problematic for any of us. When you're a kid and something feels disturbing, you turn it off. Our society really doesn't give kids any credit for…

> I don't believe in this kind of censorship and that medium article just reads like a bunch of alarmist nonsense to me.

Agreed, to some extent.

> When you're a kid and something feels disturbing, you turn it off

One of the arguments made in the original Verge article on this from February is that young children don't actually behave this way. In fact, if they did, this wouldn't be an issue, since the videos wouldn't be watched, and the motivation for making them would be gone.

I love mildly disturbing, uncomfortable and awkward entertainment. Salad Fingers and others were some of my favorite things when I was 12 or so. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all. But the children this article mentions are much younger than that.

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by walshemj »

Veratyr wrote: post #91
imustbeevil wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube hosts, monetizes, and promotes their content for free, and you're upset they can't curse as much anymore. People like Philip Defranco, while still pointing out the damage YouTube is doing to the ecosystem, monetize outside of YouTube to maintain control of their product. If the people you watch don't have a Patreon / Sponsors / merch, they are willingly submitting to the YouTube monetization algorithm. It fee…

> YouTube hosts, monetizes, and promotes their content for free No, YouTube takes a cut of their ad revenue. YouTube isn't a charity, it's a business. > It feels kind of entitled to want to get money from YouTube ads, but not produce content that those advertisers are willing to place ads on. Advertisers historically haven't really cared much about language. This whole mess was triggered by ads on a terrorist video i…

That's because big brands outsource a lot of the mundane stuff and they think youtube is just like display

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by emodendroket »

ben_jones wrote: post #153
microcolonel wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never understood how it was possible for little girls to watch the same movie literally hundreds of times, sometimes twice in one day. Some day science will get around to the real mysteries like this. I think I've tried to erase the memories of torture I survived, hearing Horton Hears a Who played most days for almost a year.

We can listen to the same music hundreds of times. If you go for a bar for over an hour you'll likely hear the same hit songs on repeat. Lots of parallels.

I find that annoying too though

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by rat87 »

reustle wrote: post #9

It's (un)surprising how fast YouTube responds to this somewhat mild criticism, while holding steady on their radio silence regarding the large amounts of huge creators who are getting demonetized and community strikes against their accounts. Nearly every big channel I watch has posted a video complaining about it in the past 2 months, with many just this week. Gives you some good insight on where their priorities are…

Fast? This stuff has been talked about for months

Here's a reddit thread from 8 months ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/5z4pww/whats_...

or a tv report on how its being called out on twitter 4 months ago

http://wgntv.com/2017/07/26/elsagate-hashtag-calling-attenti...

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by rat87 »

justaman wrote: post #113
rrhd wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it seems like the prevailing opinion is that YouTube is specifically targeting them based on political bias That's because they like to be victims. It's all about the narrative. If you look around you see this happening broadly. You see a lot of people concerned about it who don't even mention politics.

Generally its the left that tends to play the victim card for sympathy points. Clearly both sides do this however because its(unfortunately) a powerful card to play. If you look at independent conservative youtubers such as Lauren Southern in particular you'll see the clear bias YT has.

> If you look at independent conservative youtubers such as Lauren Southern

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Southern

> Lauren Southern (/ˈsʌðərn/; born 16 June,[3] 1995) is a Canadian far-right political activist, book author, and internet personality associated with the alt-right.[4][5][6] In 2015, Southern ran as a Libertarian Party candidate in the Canadian federal election. She worked for The Rebel Media, a far-right online media company based in Canada, until leaving in March 2017.

She also tried to physically prevent refugee rescuers with a far right "identitarian" group

Now she doesn't sound so innocent and the reason for YT decision seems pretty clear and uncontroversial

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by parmesan »

cowpig wrote: post #155

I don't believe in this kind of censorship and that medium article just reads like a bunch of alarmist nonsense to me. I was exposed to tons of super-weird stuff on TV an the internet (adult swim, fat-pie, etc) and so were most of my friends growing up. I don't think it was problematic for any of us. When you're a kid and something feels disturbing, you turn it off. Our society really doesn't give kids any credit for…

I appreciate that they crack down on content that is obviously designed to hurt and traumatise.

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by riffraff »

yathern wrote: post #161
cowpig wrote: post #155

I don't believe in this kind of censorship and that medium article just reads like a bunch of alarmist nonsense to me. I was exposed to tons of super-weird stuff on TV an the internet (adult swim, fat-pie, etc) and so were most of my friends growing up. I don't think it was problematic for any of us. When you're a kid and something feels disturbing, you turn it off. Our society really doesn't give kids any credit for…

> I don't believe in this kind of censorship and that medium article just reads like a bunch of alarmist nonsense to me. Agreed, to some extent. > When you're a kid and something feels disturbing, you turn it off One of the arguments made in the original Verge article on this from February is that young children don't actually behave this way. In fact, if they did, this wouldn't be an issue, since the videos wouldn't…

just as an anecdote, when my 3yo saw some videos she didn't like (i.e. she came across me watching something violent on TV) she asked me to turn it off, or backed in a corner where she couldn't see them, or walked away.

She also saw some odd nursery rhymes on youtube, but those didn't seem to annoy her.

Not all kids are the same, but I agree with the OP that we should maybe give the kids more credit.

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by macspoofing »

cowpig wrote: post #155

I don't believe in this kind of censorship and that medium article just reads like a bunch of alarmist nonsense to me. I was exposed to tons of super-weird stuff on TV an the internet (adult swim, fat-pie, etc) and so were most of my friends growing up. I don't think it was problematic for any of us. When you're a kid and something feels disturbing, you turn it off. Our society really doesn't give kids any credit for…

I agree. When I read the original I expected violence and gore videos put together by trolls to freak out kids. And I thought the article was a total waste of time. We live in the age the mob.

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by macspoofing »

parmesan wrote: post #166
cowpig wrote: post #155

I don't believe in this kind of censorship and that medium article just reads like a bunch of alarmist nonsense to me. I was exposed to tons of super-weird stuff on TV an the internet (adult swim, fat-pie, etc) and so were most of my friends growing up. I don't think it was problematic for any of us. When you're a kid and something feels disturbing, you turn it off. Our society really doesn't give kids any credit for…

I appreciate that they crack down on content that is obviously designed to hurt and traumatise.

Not one of the cited videos in the article was a example of something that is 'designed to hurt and traumatise'

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by kevingadd »

macspoofing wrote: post #168
cowpig wrote: post #155

I don't believe in this kind of censorship and that medium article just reads like a bunch of alarmist nonsense to me. I was exposed to tons of super-weird stuff on TV an the internet (adult swim, fat-pie, etc) and so were most of my friends growing up. I don't think it was problematic for any of us. When you're a kid and something feels disturbing, you turn it off. Our society really doesn't give kids any credit for…

I agree. When I read the original I expected violence and gore videos put together by trolls to freak out kids. And I thought the article was a total waste of time. We live in the age the mob.

Videos where peppa the pig gets tortured by a dentist and turns into a robot don't count as violence?
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