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Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by imustbeevil »

Veratyr wrote: post #91
imustbeevil wrote: post #69

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YouTube hosts, monetizes, and promotes their content for free, and you're upset they can't curse as much anymore. People like Philip Defranco, while still pointing out the damage YouTube is doing to the ecosystem, monetize outside of YouTube to maintain control of their product. If the people you watch don't have a Patreon / Sponsors / merch, they are willingly submitting to the YouTube monetization algorithm. It fee…

> YouTube hosts, monetizes, and promotes their content for free No, YouTube takes a cut of their ad revenue. YouTube isn't a charity, it's a business. > It feels kind of entitled to want to get money from YouTube ads, but not produce content that those advertisers are willing to place ads on. Advertisers historically haven't really cared much about language. This whole mess was triggered by ads on a terrorist video i…

> No, YouTube takes a cut of their ad revenue. YouTube isn't a charity, it's a business.

YouTube lets anyone upload videos to their site for free. All of the ad revenue is theirs, as they have the direct relationships with the advertisers. They give content creators a cut of YouTube's ad revenue, not the other way around. When creators manage their own connections to advertisers (sponsors, native, merch) YouTube doesn't get a cut.

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by rrhd »

LyndsySimon wrote: post #76
reustle wrote: post #9

It's (un)surprising how fast YouTube responds to this somewhat mild criticism, while holding steady on their radio silence regarding the large amounts of huge creators who are getting demonetized and community strikes against their accounts. Nearly every big channel I watch has posted a video complaining about it in the past 2 months, with many just this week. Gives you some good insight on where their priorities are…

What communities are you seeing this in? In the firearms/gun rights communities, it seems like the prevailing opinion is that YouTube is specifically targeting them based on political bias. I've not really considering it much, but your comment makes me wonder if their issues are part of a much larger pattern.

> it seems like the prevailing opinion is that YouTube is specifically targeting them based on political bias

That's because they like to be victims. It's all about the narrative.

If you look around you see this happening broadly. You see a lot of people concerned about it who don't even mention politics.

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by pixl97 »

falcolas wrote: post #46
gipp wrote: post #27

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2 weeks ago: https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/27/16556980/youtube-demoneti... People also need to realize that the alternative is massive amounts of ad dollars simply being removed from YouTube altogether. The demonetization drive came from advertisers' outrage over the lack of control over where their ads appear. Without the demonetization push, they start pulling out en masse and everyone loses out.

Ooooor, Google could pony up and have a human look at AI flagged demonitized videos (or even just those whose appeals are consistently succeeding) instead of their usual "kill them all and let God, err, appeals sort them out" routine. They're effectively sacrificing an entire genre (Gaming) at the alter of advertisers. A great way to lose the very content that brings advertisers and viewers to the platform in the fir…

I think you underestimate how many hours of videos are uploaded to YT every second. YT requiring lots of human interaction by moderators kills the profitability.

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by Knufen »

fapjacks wrote: post #68
mynewtb wrote: post #32

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How on earth can parents willingly expose their children to any kind of advertisement is beyond me. Adblocking is a must. Especially at such young age, you should know and control all manipulative media your kid consumes.

RIGHT. People complaining about these bizarre violent videos but they'll sit their kids in front of mind control all day.

Don't know why you got downvoted, have an upvote

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by rrhd »

ghaff wrote: post #43
mtgx wrote: post #26

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You can Google "Adpocalypse" for more info on this. Here are a couple of articles on it: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/17/arts/youtube-broadcasters... http://www.tubefilter.com/2017/05/04/how-youtube-adpocalypse... It started when some big advertisers made waves about their ads being placed on "extremist" videos on YouTube. Some quit Google's network at the time, too. To beg them back, Google essentially started re…

Is this even slightly surprising (or unreasonable)? An ad placement agency--which is effectively what google is acting as from an advertising perspective--wants safe, uncontroversial placements for at least most of their clients, especially big mainstream ones. They're mostly not looking for "edgy." The main surprise to me is that advertising support for a fair bit of non-mainstream content has held up as long as it…

The boundary for what gets demonitized are arbitrary and ridiculous. It's not just people dropping racial slurs or showing graphic violence. It's comedy channels, science channels, etc...

It's probably the only thing they can do, but it really is an awful way to treat people who should be your partners.

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by louprado »

teddyh wrote: post #95
toasterlovin wrote: post #88

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Where is your jurisdiction?

Sweden, but on closer inspection it seems I was mistaken. There are, however, very strict rules: • No junk mail addressed to anyone under 16 years of age. • No TV advertisements directed towards, or meant to catch the attention of, anyone under 12 years of age. Additionally, in TV shows aimed at children below 12, there can be: 1. No commercials preceding or following the program, nor any commercial breaks in the pro…

>> People or characters from TV shows aimed at children below 12 are not allowed to do any product endorsements, in any context.

I wonder how this is handled when the ad context is implicit. Isn't Spiderman's image, for example, always an implied advertisement for Marvel, his movies, action figures, and whatever cereal box he is appearing on this month.

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by microcolonel »

sbjustin wrote: post #75
EADGBE wrote: post #58

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We've had good luck with Netflix for Kids.

Yeah. She's only allowed on Netflix now. I've seen Sofia 10,000 times.

I never understood how it was possible for little girls to watch the same movie literally hundreds of times, sometimes twice in one day. Some day science will get around to the real mysteries like this. I think I've tried to erase the memories of torture I survived, hearing Horton Hears a Who played most days for almost a year.

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by sp332 »

reustle wrote: post #9

It's (un)surprising how fast YouTube responds to this somewhat mild criticism, while holding steady on their radio silence regarding the large amounts of huge creators who are getting demonetized and community strikes against their accounts. Nearly every big channel I watch has posted a video complaining about it in the past 2 months, with many just this week. Gives you some good insight on where their priorities are…

Here's the official YouTube twitter account promoting a video after demonetizing the channel. Warning: the comments are awful. https://mobile.twitter.com/YouTube/status/927958836308299777

Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by [deleted] »

richmarr wrote: post #25
tmaly wrote: post #8

What I find interesting is when you have parental controls on, and your playing a kids video, the advertisements are not something a kid should be shown.

It reminds me of the surprisingly-high proportion of content available without subtitles/captions. It's 2017 and plenty of people are deaf, and yet the BBC, Netflix, Amazon, etc. regularly pretend this section of their audience doesn't exist. My guess is that is an instance of poor diversity within the team that set the early direction for YouTube. Maybe a team with a higher proportion of parents respresented might h…

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Re: YouTube says it will crack down on bizarre videos targeting children

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Post by ansible »

microcolonel wrote: post #107
sbjustin wrote: post #75

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Yeah. She's only allowed on Netflix now. I've seen Sofia 10,000 times.

I never understood how it was possible for little girls to watch the same movie literally hundreds of times, sometimes twice in one day. Some day science will get around to the real mysteries like this. I think I've tried to erase the memories of torture I survived, hearing Horton Hears a Who played most days for almost a year.

I've heard some plausible theories.

For a young kid, the world is a strange and unpredictable place. Which means "scary" in some sense.

Watching a video (that the kid has seen many times before) is actually comforting. The kid can predict what's going to happen next, and is happy when expectations match reality.

There's possibly something similar going on with people on the autistic end of the spectrum, which may explain why they tend to get upset when taken out of their routine.

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