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More likely you make yourself a slave to that regime.
Slave to the regime? Really? Is that what you get from using twitter, facebook and lyft? Its a Saudi conservative paradise?
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So you are saying you don't have any use for the idea of morality. Luckily most people don't think that way and think being good is a desirable trait.
> So you are saying you don't have any use for the idea of morality. To a degree I agree with this statement though. Morality in politics and corporations seems to be purely a tool for those without morality. That is to say, "X would never do that, why do we need laws for it?" As far as I'm concerned, morality is for a person, unique and without power. If any (meaningful, I guess) power is obtained, such as in compan…
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I really doubt it, not your virtue signaling but the fact that you think your money is even remotely clean. Did you take money from a VC? Heck did you take money from a Bank? Would you surprise you to know that virtually every bank actively launders money for drug lords, terrorists and every other sort of undesirables? Money by definition isn’t clean, Saudi Arabia, UAE and the likes have one of the largest investment…
We have not taken VC money at this time. Do you think I'm an idiot? I know that basically half the things I own are at the expense of others, like my nice monitors and other electronics. However, this is a huge step away from taking money from dictatorships and slave traders. Let's be sure we are both talking about the same thing here. I hope to one day apply the skills I have gained at the expense of others to bette…
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Slave to the regime? Really? Is that what you get from using twitter, facebook and lyft? Its a Saudi conservative paradise?
I suppose the opposite is to believe that investors wield no influence over a company.
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Same answer: simple avarice. There is a lot of Saudi money and they are willing to invest it. And their money is just as good for hiring programmers and renting servers as anyone else's.
A very good explanation of why capitalism is an imoral system. Anyone who can't understand this simple fact is just losing their times. The shadier your scheme for making money, the further away you get (as long as you don't go to jail) because that's the whole nature of the beast.
I move among different circles of friends. Some studied philosophy and political science, others arts in general, and others computer science.
It's scary that tech people have this very "blase" attitude (oversimplification perhaps?) that one's motive when it comes to how to handle distribution of money comes down to simple "meritocracy" and/or "greed."
As if the very fact that blaming the innate human debility of giving in to avarice or greed does not presuppose much more problems, such as ulterior motives, cultural bias, nepotism, etc.
There is, of course, the notion that the bigger a corporation gets (e.g., a conglomerate), the more dehumanizing it is. With such large sums of money being moved around (to whatever end or outcome) comes more "bottom line" interests and "corporate interests," and as such, it is less about the individual. The repercussions of this, which are pretty evident to me, is that it creates an institution or entity or agent ("corporation," if you want) that does not have a moral framework or acts not humanely but immorally, while its shareholders and investors can sleep comfortably at night because they distance the self from the company, so it is not the person acting immorally, but some "unknown force" (the Company), which, using reason, cannot actually be "immoral," because surely only humans can act in such a way.
What a world.
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We have not taken VC money at this time. Do you think I'm an idiot? I know that basically half the things I own are at the expense of others, like my nice monitors and other electronics. However, this is a huge step away from taking money from dictatorships and slave traders. Let's be sure we are both talking about the same thing here. I hope to one day apply the skills I have gained at the expense of others to bette…
And do you think that VC doesn't have any Saudi money or money from another dictator?
Are you wearing your glasses? What VC are you talking about?
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Sometimes moral reasons can be the profitable decision if those morales are something that includes peoples economic decisions.
The problem is that even if you have benevolent leaders in charge of the major players in a market, all it does is create opportunity for some immoral actor to enter the market to realize the profit opportunity. I can't think of an example that a modern corporation has done something against their benefit for purely for moral reasons. This is the responsibility of effective government regulation and consumer choice.…
Israel, the racist state, also fuels the tech industry. I don't hear any complaints from the new york times?
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"The least of several evils" is not the same thing as "good".
But what if it's the least evil of all the available options? That doesn't itself make it "good" but that does make it the best option available.
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I suppose the opposite is to believe that investors wield no influence over a company.
As far as we know, the ones that are committing ideological suicide are the Saudis.