Probably for the same reason external monitors on touchbar MacBook Pros are totally screwed up in High Sierra. Quality control has gone to shit again.
Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?
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#72> Hitting airplane mode now drops connected bluetooth devices wait, isn't that expected behavior anyway? You're getting on an airplane and turning off all the radios; bluetooth operates via a radio.
Is there an actual bug here? It's much nicer than before in my opinion. It actually remembers whether your Bluetooth radio was On or Off when last in Airplane Mode and that's a new feature of iOS 11 as far as I'm aware. I frequently go in and out of Airplane Mode without dropping Bluetooth. What's the bug?
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
But how are you going to listen to music on your wireless Airpods during the long flight, given that you showed courage in abandoning your audio cables? Delightful.
You hit the airplane mode button, and then hit the Bluetooth button to re-enable Bluetooth but not other radios.
And then the airplane crashes. (Or so I'm told.)
Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?
#74They need to hit a panic button inside Apple, and use the time they've bought themselves by introducing 2018's hardware in 2017 (as they claim the X does), and focus 100% on software. I think giving iOS design to Ive was an error, but even if they don't agree with that, they need to focus on software very clearly and very publicly, making iOS 12 a release like the old Snow Leopard MacOS release. Focus on quality and…
Bringing out the iPhone X and the iPhone 8 at the same time is already a confusing marketing mess and something that never would have happened under Jobs.
you say that but the people making these decisions are the people that knew Jobs better than you.
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#75I keep losing audio controls on my lock screen - not just navigation, even volume. Alarms have also started making no sound in the morning. I've just picked up the habit of restarting my phone before I go to bed at night. I am just shocked that so many existing features got broken in odd ways.
I get this too. I thought it was because my phone is older (iphone 6). Since the upgrade my phone has been AWFUL and is beginning to cause more frustration than it's worth. I also subscribe to Apple Music and it is driving me crazy. Since the upgrade it randomly starts over with my songs in alphabetical order and not on shuffle so even if I'm ok with it I have to touch my phone to shuffle them. All that worked just f…
I’ve had the opposite problem for years in Apple Music: it’s impossible to turn shuffle _off_. It keeps getting re-enabled randomly, and the UI for finding the setting required a Google search.
Maybe caused by some weird interaction with my car head unit (Nissan/Infiniti) or something because it always reports shuffle as off even when it is on!
Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?
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If iOS 11.1 can be considered "the first service pack", then even that sounds iffy. Or at least, what I'm reading suggests that even with that update, my battery life would still be crap should I decide to upgrade. Though this gets to another problem with Apple's maintenance of iOS: If you don't upgrade to iOS 11, you don't get their fix for krack attacks. Microsoft, on the other hand, did have the common decency to…
This. When Apple devices reach two generations old, they need to be forcibly removed from your environment, or they will quickly become gaping security holes. For a company that prides itself on its image of protecting users' privacy, it sure is behind the curve on software maintenance.
My family has 4 year old iPhone 5S in service that still receive all security updates.
Our Android devices on the other hand... not so much. Six months of updates seems to be about the max!
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You've gotta go Pocket Casts. I took the leap and never looked back. It's miles better.
The web client which keeps in sync with the phone clients is so nice. I get home, put the phone in my pocket, and start the podcast I was listening to at exactly the same place it was when I got out of the car. And vice versa, of course. For a one-time fee service, it's pretty amazing!
Totally agree and that one-time fee thing is a lost art!
Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?
#78I would have expected someone working at Apple who should be getting paid a high salary and writing software that is used by millions of people to have huge pride in their work. This means testing what they deliver in isolation and on integrated builds. So either apple staff are under too much pressure that quality control has gone out the window or they have the wrong kind of people. For instance are they missing th…
> So either apple staff are under too much pressure that quality control has gone out the window
We will never know, but I'm guessing this is the reason.
Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?
#79Hitting airplane mode drops connected bluetooth devices, until you reenable it while in airplane mode. It then remembers that you want bluetooth to remain on in airplane mode.
Hasn't been this always the case?
AFAIK airplane mode should kill all radio signals.
Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?
#80It's a new release, not a general decline in quality. This always happens, it's just that iOS updates are infrequent enough that people forget about the day 1 bugs. You want to be on the cutting edge? This is what you get! I didn't even have to tell my mother not to update, she knew to wait a few months.
> You want to be on the cutting edge? This is what you get!
That's what betas are for.