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It's not so absurd when you are good friends with people who run astroturfing companies.

It's an attempt to nullify the speaker rather than responding to the statement. It's become quite the thing these days. No I am not a paid shill, try again,

Ok, but it's not absurd.

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Ha, I specifically remember this as one of my favorite episodes from the History of Rome Podcast[0] by Michael Duncan (#98 in linked list[1]). Of some relevance is his new book that just came out, The Storm Before the Storm[2], which details the events that preceded the rise of Julius Caesar and paved the way for him to overthrow the republic. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_Rome_(podcast) [1] https:…

After two years of getting through the back catalog I'm almost done with The History of Rome. I highly, highly recommend to it anyone who likes history or Rome or just a good story.

Oh man, I'm excited for you, I cried when I got to the end of THoR... you gonna continue with The History of Byzantium or Revolutions Podcast?

I find Robin Pierson to be pretty good (THoB), but I find I can't stop listening to Duncan... I'll buy the audio book for Storm Before the Storms just to keep listening.

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Does that count the amount of free press Trump received during the campaign?

Don't know why you're getting downvoted. Trump was the best thing that ever happened to the media and they didn't stop talking about his antics for the entire election. He made them alot of money in clicks, and that's what journalism is about. Ultimate responsibility maybe lies somewhere else, but there's plenty of blame to go around and they emphatically deserve some of it.

> they didn't stop talking about his antics

They still haven't. Whenever I tune into CNN, all they ever talk about is Trump. I watch NBC instead.

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No flame war here, but as someone who has friends and family in Appalachia and middle America who voted for Trump, I tire of the "Trump won, and we didn't foresee it, so it must have been Russia tricking stupid, dumb rednecks into voting for him" narrative. I dislike it because if Hillary had won, nobody would be looking into this at all. They would simply accept that in a free republic, policing what people hear is…

> "Trump won, and we didn't foresee it, so it must have been Russia tricking stupid, dumb rednecks into voting for him" strawman. Some other theories about why black turnout was low this election: Voter suppression: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/10/voter-suppressio... Russian-funded fake social media activism specifically targeted at black people: https://www.npr.org/2017/10/20/559113232/russian-operatives…

What effect do you think Russian propaganda and voter suppression had on the black turnout for HRC? And what effect did simply not fielding a historical black candidate have on the enthusiasm to vote among the black population?

Also, how does black targeted propaganda and state-wide "voter suppression" laws explain that HRC lost big on the black vote relative to 2012, but Republicans came out equal or perhaps even better in the black vote, despite the media screaming constantly that Trump is racist.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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No flame war here, but as someone who has friends and family in Appalachia and middle America who voted for Trump, I tire of the "Trump won, and we didn't foresee it, so it must have been Russia tricking stupid, dumb rednecks into voting for him" narrative. I dislike it because if Hillary had won, nobody would be looking into this at all. They would simply accept that in a free republic, policing what people hear is…

> Trump didn't magically get votes that Romney didn't. Instead, the data shows that Hillary didn't get black voters to turnout in the numbers that Obama did. It was even worse than that (for HRC and the Dems). Did she even visit Wisconsin during the campaign? Also there are reports that Trump received a higher fraction of the black vote than Romney got.

Per the Vox article linked in a sibling comment, 95% of black women who voted in 2016 voted for Hillary.

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Reminds me of the short lived reign of the emperor who purchased his title. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didius_Julianus

Ha, I specifically remember this as one of my favorite episodes from the History of Rome Podcast[0] by Michael Duncan (#98 in linked list[1]). Of some relevance is his new book that just came out, The Storm Before the Storm[2], which details the events that preceded the rise of Julius Caesar and paved the way for him to overthrow the republic. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_Rome_(podcast) [1] https:…

Careful; even Mike has cautioned against that comparison (in, I think his second Q&A episode).

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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post #144

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No flame war here, but as someone who has friends and family in Appalachia and middle America who voted for Trump, I tire of the "Trump won, and we didn't foresee it, so it must have been Russia tricking stupid, dumb rednecks into voting for him" narrative. I dislike it because if Hillary had won, nobody would be looking into this at all. They would simply accept that in a free republic, policing what people hear is…

> Instead, the data shows that Hillary didn't get black voters to turnout in the numbers that Obama did. It also shows voter suppression by Republicans hurt Democratic turnout in critical states (Wisconsin).

Take Wisconsin's 10 EC votes and give them to Clinton and she would still lose. As a side note, I find it interesting how one man's voter suppression laws are another man's voter integrity laws.

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The main difference is that gamers are much better connected than movie goers I think. This sort of behavior might not have as many repercussions for movie studios as it does for gaming studios.

"better" doesn't seem a good description for the gaming community's connection to studios. In many cases, gamers themselves might even strong-arm media outlets for studios with or without permission, hence the inflated scores. The recent fake review on Mario Odyssey comes to mind.

The Jim Sterling one?

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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This is a funny joke, but empirically not true as of this last election. Hillary massively out spent Trump.

Trump had a real genius for getting free media attention (in return for giving the media good numbers of viewers with his antics).

He also simply called into the media, giving dozens of live interviews. Did Hillary ever do that? Or did she just go from one staged Q&A session to another?
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