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Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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Post by tclancy »

inestyne wrote: post #31

I think municipalities should be free to make the best deal they can with large employers like this. Chips fall where they may. They are all elected officials so therefore directly accountable. Seems like the system is working just fine here. Doesn't seem like this is anyone else's business.

>Seems like the system is working just fine here.

They gifted a parking garage/ 1 billion dollars of tax-payer funds to a multinational corporation who was hardly going to pull up stakes and move one of their flagship parks. How is this working fine?

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

1_2__4 wrote: post #41
inestyne wrote: post #31

I think municipalities should be free to make the best deal they can with large employers like this. Chips fall where they may. They are all elected officials so therefore directly accountable. Seems like the system is working just fine here. Doesn't seem like this is anyone else's business.

Are you paid for this opinion? I have to imagine yes.

I don't agree with the parent either, but this growing trend of accusing everyone you disagree with on the internet of being a paid shill is just getting absurd.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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Post by gooseus »

bsder wrote: post #66
michaelt wrote: post #40

This is similar to the tactic used by Harvey Weinstein to discourage newspapers from reporting on rape allegations against him. Journalists that participated in the cover-up got access to his film premieres, parties at award ceremonies, interviews with celebrities and so on. Turns out that was enough to get every entertainment journalist to cover up his crimes for years. Apparently people in Hollywood don't see any p…

> Apparently people in Hollywood don't see any problem with this! I suspect the bigger problem is that there are so few honest people involved in the business that you would have to shut down if you broke off association with everybody doing shady things in Hollywood. While I'm pleased to see Weinstein going down, I keep scratching my head about "We know that there are people in Hollywood doing far worse things. Why…

My assumption is that he upset some other powerful people who then allowed this to happen. Reminds me of a line from Rules for Rulers by CGP Grey:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

It's not the people's revolt that overthrows the king, it's the court who are overthrowing the king by allowing the people's revolt to progress... because the king has stopped providing them with enough treasure to keep him propped up.

My guess is that something changed the political calculus for his key supporters and they either precipitated this or allowed it to happen.

For sure there are other abusers who are probably showering their allies in treasure to keep them loyal so they don't get caught up in this.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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Post by [deleted] »

eduren wrote: post #5

> Disney CEO Bob Iger is said to have ordered the retaliatory measure against the LA Times, and is also thought to be considering a 2020 presidential bid, which augurs poorly for his approach to the free press. Wow, I hadn't heard this was a possibility until now. I sure am looking forward to seeing which of the many {m/b}illionaires ends up winning the presidency in 2020! How about we just cut out the middlemen and…

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Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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Post by kmc059000 »

_jal wrote: post #9
eduren wrote: post #5

> Disney CEO Bob Iger is said to have ordered the retaliatory measure against the LA Times, and is also thought to be considering a 2020 presidential bid, which augurs poorly for his approach to the free press. Wow, I hadn't heard this was a possibility until now. I sure am looking forward to seeing which of the many {m/b}illionaires ends up winning the presidency in 2020! How about we just cut out the middlemen and…

Let's just start selling the role outright. It would be more efficient, most likely lead to the same result, and avoiding the grating, bullshit horserace coverage for a year would make everyone's live better.

But then what would the media have to talk about?

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Post by LastZactionHero »

kelukelugames wrote: post #39

Aren't all video game review sites like this? All AAA games get inflated scores to not offend the studios.

Kotaku was blacklisted by Bethesda for reporting on Fallout 4 before it was revealed.

https://kotaku.com/a-price-of-games-journalism-1743526293

Not exactly local government corrupted by a major corporation here, but yeah studios blacklist for reports they don't like.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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Post by ConceptJunkie »

jeffdavis wrote: post #63
mullen wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump got several billion dollars in free coverage. No one would care about Trump if he was not Trump.

I don't think that's intellectually honest. The last presidential election was a clear counterexample of the "money buys the presidency" narrative. After the fact you can always think of a reason that the counterexample is a special exception, and doesn't really invalidate a claim. Someone who likes Trump could just as easily call his campaign grassroots from an outsider who didn't try to use his vast wealth to buy t…

The last election shows, among other things, that the media so grossly overplayed their hand that it backfired on them greatly, and Trump was there to take every advantage that was possible to take. Meanwhile, Clinton literally acted as if the election were merely a formality and coasted (although she spent a huge amount of money).

I can say personally that the media's breathless spittle-flecked coverage of Trump did nothing to turn me off to him, and only improved my opinion of him. I did not vote for him in the primary and was angry when he ran, but by the time the general election came along, the idea inflicting schadenfreude on the media and left became incredibly appealing to me, and along with the fact that I would no sooner vote for Clinton than for Chairman Mao, and the fact that I wasn't going to throw away my vote, I pulled the lever for Trump.

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Post by xenihn »

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #122
1_2__4 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you paid for this opinion? I have to imagine yes.

I don't agree with the parent either, but this growing trend of accusing everyone you disagree with on the internet of being a paid shill is just getting absurd.

It's not so absurd when you are good friends with people who run astroturfing companies.

Re: LA Times barred from Disney movies after report on corporate welfare

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Post by davidf18 »

eduren wrote: post #5

> Disney CEO Bob Iger is said to have ordered the retaliatory measure against the LA Times, and is also thought to be considering a 2020 presidential bid, which augurs poorly for his approach to the free press. Wow, I hadn't heard this was a possibility until now. I sure am looking forward to seeing which of the many {m/b}illionaires ends up winning the presidency in 2020! How about we just cut out the middlemen and…

Bob Iger donated $2 million to Florida Sen Marc Rubio. Rubio is one of the "Gang of Eight" in the Senate that wants to triple H1-B.

http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2016/02/28/displaced-di...

Interestingly, MSM, rarely speaks of Trump denouncing H1-B visa abuse. Iger wants to depress H1-B wages and already has replaced 250 American Disney IT workers with H1-B Visa Indians. It is for reasons like this that Trump won.

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Post by praneshp »

notyourday wrote: post #114
bsder wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apparently people in Hollywood don't see any problem with this! I suspect the bigger problem is that there are so few honest people involved in the business that you would have to shut down if you broke off association with everybody doing shady things in Hollywood. While I'm pleased to see Weinstein going down, I keep scratching my head about "We know that there are people in Hollywood doing far worse things. Why…

Hollywood still defends Polanski. Hollywood still attacks RMG. Hollywood still defends Ben Afflec. Hollywood still has not kicked Tarantino/Clooney/Matt Daemon out for covering it up. Netflix/Amazon/HBO still has not dropped everything that Harvey the Stain makes money off from its catalogs. House of Cards has been canceled but not pulled. It is simply posturing.

> Netflix/Amazon/HBO still has not dropped everything that Harvey the Stain makes money off from its catalogs.

For what? Hasn't being fired from his company, etc, stopped Harvey the Stain from making money anyway? If not, make that happen. It's stupid to drop all movies he produced; I'd probably cancel Netflix if they did that.

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