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Re: Audacity 2.2.0 Released

#131
Sadly, there no yet ready-to-use Audacity 2.2.0 packages[1] for most popular distributives or at least AppImage[2], that could be run without installing. Also, its look like all daily/nightly builds on Launchpad[3] and on Travis CI[4] failed...

[1] https://repology.org/metapackage/audacity/versions

[2] https://bintray.com/probono/AppImages/Audacity

[3] https://launchpad.net/~audacity-team/+archive/ubuntu/daily

[4] https://travis-ci.org/audacity/audacity

Re: Audacity 2.2.0 Released

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I've used Audacity off and on for years. Love that it is still around and pretty much _just works_. It does just what I need, as infrequently as I need it, and doesn't require an idiotic (and steep) subscription fee to use (glaring at you Adobe CS).

Honestly, I couldn't disagree more. Audacity is one of the buggiest pieces of open source software I've used. Audio routinely gets corrupted or lost. Their "known issues" page is comically long, and little ever gets fixed. I have a lot of love for them for making audio editing accessible to the masses, but I wish a team would clean the app up like the LibreOffice folks did to OpenOffice.

You have to be doing something wrong or have something wrong with your setups. I've literally never had that happen in light to heavy use across 5 installations.

Re: Audacity 2.2.0 Released

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I fully agree with the above. There's a truckload going on in all these interfaces. The thing people don't like here, which is absolutely true, is that if you want to use FLStudio, or Ableton, or even Cubase, and think you're going to succeed just by opening up the app and clicking around, you're wrong. You actually do need to use the tutorials and read the manual. (It's exactly the same if you buy any kind of comple…

GarageBand?

Assuming that comment isn't simply trolling...

GarageBand is certainly powerful, especially given it's deliberate limitation, and both myself and friends have used it to great effect, but Ableton Live it is not. If you look at Logic - which GarageBand is really a cut down version of - you see a similar degree of complexity to that in other professional level DAWs.

Not everyone needs a professional level DAW, and even those who do wouldn't necessarily use one all the time: as I've said, I still use Audacity, and GarageBand on the iPad or iPhone is a super-handy tool.

The parent was commenting on people who ridiculously bleat on about the the UX of complex professional level audio tools, not suggesting there isn't a place for tools that are simpler.

Re: Audacity 2.2.0 Released

#134

Whilst Ableton Live has long been my DAW of choice I've been using Audacity since around 2004 and still use it today. Mostly it's quick edits on game sound effects: changing sample rate, bit rate, topping and tailing, fading, exporting MP3s. When I master tracks in Ableton I also still use Audacity to export an MP3 version (that's probably just force of habit though - I imagine there's a better way of doing that thes…

I use both Live and Audacity, they are just not comparable. Audacity is an audio editor, not a DAW.

Exactly.

Re: Audacity 2.2.0 Released

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Oh, man: MED and then OctaMED (when it eventually landed on a magazine cover CD) were my trackers of choice for creating music for the games I was always tinkering with back in the early 90s, and arguably the reason I got back into music production as hobby in the late noughties.

If you find yourself wanting to play with trackers today, Renoise is the modern spiritual successor of MED and ProTracker and the like, and it's really great, and is competitive with modern DAWs in that it supports VSTs and controllers and automation and such. SunVox is also super cool, but for different reasons...it's more of a minimalist tool.

Thanks for the recommendation - there's still something appealing to me about the tracker way of working (and it's only €68!).

Re: Audacity 2.2.0 Released

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GarageBand?

Assuming that comment isn't simply trolling... GarageBand is certainly powerful, especially given it's deliberate limitation, and both myself and friends have used it to great effect, but Ableton Live it is not . If you look at Logic - which GarageBand is really a cut down version of - you see a similar degree of complexity to that in other professional level DAWs. Not everyone needs a professional level DAW, and eve…

I should have made myself clearer: I was not proposing GarageBand as an alternative to professional-grade DAWs, but rather as the "Instagram for music" GP refered to in its last sentence.

Re: Audacity 2.2.0 Released

#137

I wish there was a some sort of a Open Source UI squad that would just work towards making awesome UIs for projects like Audacity, GIMP etc. There are so many low hanging fruits here like - iconography, spacing, using the right widget controls etc. that would make a lot more people want to use (and hopefully support) such software.

Good UI is overrated in utility apps. Audacity, for the people who use it, use it very frequently. It's a powerful tool with a specific purpose. The initial few minutes of confusing UI are trounced by the hundreds of hours people spend in the program after they have all the UI and keyboard shortcuts memorized. Could it be better? Yes. Should it be a priority? Nah.

What should the priority be?

Re: Audacity 2.2.0 Released

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How could it? Do you expect them to run some sort of headless Photoshop VM?

well, it's able to display 3d files and images, so why not add some viewers for diffs ? https://github.com/makezonefablab/MakersBook01_MusicBox/comm...

There's a huge difference between displaying a simple, well documented open format and handling proprietary binary formats.

Re: Audacity 2.2.0 Released

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post #138

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well, it's able to display 3d files and images, so why not add some viewers for diffs ? https://github.com/makezonefablab/MakersBook01_MusicBox/comm...

There's a huge difference between displaying a simple, well documented open format and handling proprietary binary formats.

But there are plenty of libre software which are able to open a very large set of PSDs. Even if not everything was working perfectly, it would still be a good starting point.

https://gist.github.com/ocornut/52a4b9c679ed670851e7

Re: Audacity 2.2.0 Released

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Honestly, I couldn't disagree more. Audacity is one of the buggiest pieces of open source software I've used. Audio routinely gets corrupted or lost. Their "known issues" page is comically long, and little ever gets fixed. I have a lot of love for them for making audio editing accessible to the masses, but I wish a team would clean the app up like the LibreOffice folks did to OpenOffice.

You have to be doing something wrong or have something wrong with your setups. I've literally never had that happen in light to heavy use across 5 installations.

It's not hard to find others with problems. Look at the McElroy podcast archive: they alone lost numerous episodes because Audacity just didn't record any audio. My podcasting friends have ended up with corrupt Audacity save files (sometimes after a crash, sometimes just because), requiring a painful recovery process involving stitching together hundreds of scratch files.

If it were just me, I'd agree with you. But it's so common that I don't consider it a viable way to edit audio.

Edit: in thinking about it, one of the friends I record with often actually records with both Audacity and another app, just because Audacity fails so often.

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