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Re: Freelancer.com has ruined my life

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Post by featherverse »

All of those "freelancer" websites are scams.

Freelancing is about not working for other men. It's about being your own boss. Those websites are not really freelancing, they're temp agencies hiring out short term contract work. That is not freelancing. Those websites all share specific qualities: The salaries are too low, the service quality is poor, and you'll be outbid by unskilled indian labor 90% of the time.

Put your portfolio online and find your customers through other methods. If you have to pay someone else even $1 to find customers you are being ripped off.

Re: Freelancer.com has ruined my life

#52

Post by xiphias »

gressquel wrote: post #26
literallycancer wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your article doesn't mention how much you paid them. If you are paying someone 5$ per hour, you can't expect much. edit: you mention the prices in the comments, so here they are for anyone curious: Node.js port 155 USD, Android port 789 USD, Website theme 300 USD. It is not slave wages considering the living costs in the respective countries. (sic!) >Node.js port 155 USD This is good for what, 1 hour of work? Pay pea…

Well, the hour rate in europe is much higher than in Asia because the living costs are much lower. So if you follow that principle, how is 155 USD low for 3 days work? its 1000 CNY

For me as a software engineer who could move anywhere in the world, relative living costs never mattered, only absolute savings, as I can use it in any country, which is salary minus living cost. Zurich gave me the best savings, but I think many people (including great software developers in China) think similarly.

Re: Freelancer.com has ruined my life

#53

Post by jimbokun »

gexla wrote: post #33

This review should get pulled. If the reviewer posted this under his real name, then he should remove it. This review will kill his reputation, which will cause more problems than anything mentioned in the review. If it's not a real name, then I imagine it's a violation. This is the only review under this user. The review has a TLDR at the top, but my own TLDR for this review would be "I was desperate". It's easy for…

There is a pattern in the modern Internet economy, of large companies engaging in outright theft and fraud, with the legal system unwilling to take action.

How many stories of PayPal, Google, and others outright stealing money from their customers and users, with no explanation, and no recourse from the courts? Oh, I forgot, they “freeze their account”, which is totally different than just stealing, somehow.

So, yes, we should all try to avoid these services. But there is also a desperate need to reform our legal system to stop what our common sense tells us is simply theft.

Re: Freelancer.com has ruined my life

#54

Post by featherverse »

gressquel wrote: post #25
rootlocus wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indian developers are know for poor quality and extremely low prices. You probably shouldn't hire the cheapest developers. > Freelancer.com is a cesspool of low-level coders who says yes yes yes when you ask them of their skills and knowledge of frameworks. Yes it is. And you should avoid them, especially if you know this. Fool me once and all that. I think this experience is as much your fault as it is theirs.

I didnt only hire Indians: 1 chinese, 1 indian, and 1 bangladeshi.

If you hire people who aren't citizens of your own country you're going to get ripped off. You need to learn how the planit functions.

Never hire anyone outside your own nation for anything. There is no such thing as a global economy.

Re: Freelancer.com has ruined my life

#55

Post by yeukhon »

featherverse wrote: post #51

All of those "freelancer" websites are scams. Freelancing is about not working for other men. It's about being your own boss. Those websites are not really freelancing, they're temp agencies hiring out short term contract work. That is not freelancing. Those websites all share specific qualities: The salaries are too low, the service quality is poor, and you'll be outbid by unskilled indian labor 90% of the time. Put…

Not necessarily everyone. I did a few and I am not part of any temp agencies.

Re: Freelancer.com has ruined my life

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Post by wsc981 »

benkarst wrote: post #28

I've heard of several people getting screwed over by Freelancer. I don't see them as being around too often. Maybe Upwork and others will displace them? I recommend Open Door ( https://opendoorconnect.com/ ) to market yourself as a consultant or contractor. It's appointment based so it's not a pure alternative to Freelancer but IMO task based sites aren't worth it for talented developers.

Upwork also had similar stories in the past. I doubt it's much different from Freelancer.

Re: Freelancer.com has ruined my life

#57

Post by iforgotpassword »

benkarst wrote: post #28

I've heard of several people getting screwed over by Freelancer. I don't see them as being around too often. Maybe Upwork and others will displace them? I recommend Open Door ( https://opendoorconnect.com/ ) to market yourself as a consultant or contractor. It's appointment based so it's not a pure alternative to Freelancer but IMO task based sites aren't worth it for talented developers.

Yeah you see this kind of post about freelancer.com every now and then. Don't get how anyone can still consider using them. Some of the stories are scary as shit.

Re: Freelancer.com has ruined my life

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Post by moltar »

literallycancer wrote: post #21
gressquel wrote: post #8

let me piggyback on this thread. this is my freelancer.com experience as a hirer https://medium.com/@ss88/freelancer-com-my-horrible-experien...

Your article doesn't mention how much you paid them. If you are paying someone 5$ per hour, you can't expect much. edit: you mention the prices in the comments, so here they are for anyone curious: Node.js port 155 USD, Android port 789 USD, Website theme 300 USD. It is not slave wages considering the living costs in the respective countries. (sic!) >Node.js port 155 USD This is good for what, 1 hour of work? Pay pea…

In which dreamland you get paid USD$155 per hour for Node.js work?

Re: Freelancer.com has ruined my life

#59

Post by csomar »

literallycancer wrote: post #21
gressquel wrote: post #8

let me piggyback on this thread. this is my freelancer.com experience as a hirer https://medium.com/@ss88/freelancer-com-my-horrible-experien...

Your article doesn't mention how much you paid them. If you are paying someone 5$ per hour, you can't expect much. edit: you mention the prices in the comments, so here they are for anyone curious: Node.js port 155 USD, Android port 789 USD, Website theme 300 USD. It is not slave wages considering the living costs in the respective countries. (sic!) >Node.js port 155 USD This is good for what, 1 hour of work? Pay pea…

> It is not slave wages considering the living costs in the respective countries.

This pisses me off big time. It is more expensive to live in developing countries than in developed countries. Try to wrap your head around it. These countries are developing, so they don't have infrastructure to support their populace.

Re: Freelancer.com has ruined my life

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Post by iforgotpassword »

gexla wrote: post #33

This review should get pulled. If the reviewer posted this under his real name, then he should remove it. This review will kill his reputation, which will cause more problems than anything mentioned in the review. If it's not a real name, then I imagine it's a violation. This is the only review under this user. The review has a TLDR at the top, but my own TLDR for this review would be "I was desperate". It's easy for…

Seriously, what is wrong with you?
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