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Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by sah2ed »

selectodude wrote: post #105
gurkendoktor wrote: post #98

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In terms of profits, yes. But many of us don't buy Apple for the hardware, but because we want to stay in their software ecosystem. I'd rather use a Nexus running iOS than an iPhone X running Android, and I'm even more invested in macOS. That Apple builds nice hardware is a bonus for me (but I'd honestly prefer better software right now). I mean, on paper Apple is making more money from hardware than from software, b…

Apple has been very serious about how they’re a hardware company vs a software company for like 30+ years now. Literally the first thing SPJ did after coming back was kill the Mac clones program. They’re obsessed with the feel of the hardware in every way. The software is just a platform.

> Literally the first thing SPJ did after coming back was kill the Mac clones program.

That's because the clones were cannibalizing Apple's own hardware offerings - the clones were gradually putting Apple out of its own business.

This NYT article from 1996 talked about how the Mac clone strategy was playing out for Apple [0].

[0] https://partners.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/1230macs.htm...

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by Jack000 »

mankash666 wrote: post #2

Truly impressive. Smaller, yet faster than the competition. Surprising how many of the chips are now internal Apple components: 1. CPU/GPU 2. Auxiliary Machine Learning/AI chip 3. NAND controller 4. IR Deapth sensor & signal processing chip 5. Power management IC (surprising that Apple is doing Analog IC design too!) Axiom in the tech world is that "Apple is a software company that builds hardware". Above is ample ev…

I think Apple is a Design company, as in that's their main value add. Like Steve Jobs said, design is not just how their products look but how they work - something that requires both software and hardware.

On the other hand Google seems to be more of a software company, which reflects in their general culture and hiring practices.

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Post by lostlogin »

yndoendo wrote: post #154
hyperbovine wrote: post #114

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The axiom is that people will sit around debating which is the correct axiom on tech boards ad infinitum.

Apple is tuple(Hardware,Software) = product. So simply a product company.

In Swift

product: (String, String) = (Hardware, Software)

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by lostlogin »

damnyou wrote: post #237
acdha wrote: post #235

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If you’re regularly getting 100+ notifications you need to setup filters, change your notification settings, or find a new job.

Or you know, just use an Android phone. Apple zealots are the fucking worst. Your phone makers are too incompetent to implement notifications properly, so your solution is to find a new job.

Phone makers or phone maker?

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Post by johnchristopher »

Jack000 wrote: post #282
mankash666 wrote: post #2

Truly impressive. Smaller, yet faster than the competition. Surprising how many of the chips are now internal Apple components: 1. CPU/GPU 2. Auxiliary Machine Learning/AI chip 3. NAND controller 4. IR Deapth sensor & signal processing chip 5. Power management IC (surprising that Apple is doing Analog IC design too!) Axiom in the tech world is that "Apple is a software company that builds hardware". Above is ample ev…

I think Apple is a Design company, as in that's their main value add. Like Steve Jobs said, design is not just how their products look but how they work - something that requires both software and hardware. On the other hand Google seems to be more of a software company, which reflects in their general culture and hiring practices.

> I think Apple is a Design company, as in that's their main value add. Like Steve Jobs said, design is not just how their products look but how they work - something that requires both software and hardware.

That's just word redefining. And I have an old iMac 20 that has all its USB ports on the back and every time I have to twist my wrist to plug something I am reminded how Apple isn't that good at functional design. The thing is pretty though.

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Post by johnchristopher »

mschuster91 wrote: post #203
jrs95 wrote: post #155

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At least it's not Windows. I'm amazed at how something as basic as Bluetooth has been completely fucked for me since I got a PC. On no other platform have my Bose QC35s, AirPods, or wireless Logitech headset had issues. On Windows 10, they hardly work at all. Ironically the only device that works for longer than a few seconds before losing audio is my AirPods, which I still have to reconnect frequently to get the aud…

Thats the problem with Windows - it still does not carry a decent Bluetooth stack and depends on the vendor shipping one. And all of them I have seen so far are more or less crap. Linux on the other hand is exclusively Bluez which works fine... but god forbid you want to do something like BLE communications or more complex sound stuff, the docs are horrid. The OS X BT stack is... well I dont have any issues with it p…

So basically, bluetooth is still a PITA nowadays :/.

If I turn the key in my car, get the electricity running though the circuit, then the phone gets connected to the car. If I turn the key one more time to ignite the engine the car system lose the bt connection and I have to manually force the connection with the phone.

I just ignite the car as soon as I sit in now.

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by jankey »

kuschku wrote: post #170
aliasxneo wrote: post #164

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As a datacenter technician for Google, this makes me happy to see other people recognize this.

It’s just sad that we’ll never see any of that openly available, or described.

It's not a lot, but there are a bunch of pictures on google.com/about/datacenters, including a 'street view' inside our DC in North Carolina.

There are also a bunch of papers on the network architecture, https://research.google.com/pubs/Networking.html .

But yes, a lot is closed for the obvious reason that this is really core to the business Google is running.

(I'm a datacenter engineer at Google)

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Post by fgonzag »

tigershark wrote: post #77
TylerE wrote: post #65

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Fit and finish on many "high end" cars is actually pretty abysmal. Especially basically anything Italian.

Oh..I didn't know that your Ferrari had a shit finish, you must have been quite unlucky...

I've driven ferraris in las vegas racetracks. Affordable experience. The fit and finish was far below any luxury vehicle by far. The R8 was miles ahead in comfort and luxury details, but then those cars are not not designed as a luxury vehicle.

Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by [deleted] »

tigershark wrote: post #187
lovich wrote: post #158

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Well shit, this thread didn't prepare me for this big a goalpost move Edit: That was overly sarcastic but it went from talking about italian cars, to Ferrari specifically, to implying that the Italian brand is fine as long as it has Italian owners. Discussions are pointless if everyone's going to be arguing different points

I am sorry, but I think you didn't follow properly the discussion. The first quote I answered was exactly: "Fit and finish on many "high end" cars is actually pretty abysmal. Especially basically anything Italian." So, as everyone can see, the discussion was specifically around high end Italian cars, unless I'm missing some tricky and specific nuance of the English language in this context. In that case please enligh…

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Re: iPhone X Teardown

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Post by lostlogin »

robin_reala wrote: post #135
abritinthebay wrote: post #132

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You're describing the cheap Chinese made knock-offs. They look almost perfectly identical and generally you can only tell by opening them up. They're awful. There are a LOT of teardowns of those. It's scary.

I bought a MacBook on eBay that came with a fake charger. Had to threaten to report them before they sent me a real one.

I hope you then reported them.
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