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1900s ID Cards That Kept Trans People Safe from Harassment

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Re: 1900s ID Cards That Kept Trans People Safe from Harassment

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Seems like Hacker News is being co-opted by people with an agenda. I see more and more of these off-topic articles popping up on the front page

lol this and so many other articles aren't even remotely related to development. Literally off topic according to the site guidelines.

Can you point me to the guideline that says stories must be related to development please?

Re: 1900s ID Cards That Kept Trans People Safe from Harassment

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There's a reason the Weimar Republic fell so fast. As we walk towards "Weimerica", I believe we are experiencing the similar things we studied about the fall of the Weimar Republic. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

And pray tell, what is that reason and how is it related to this article?

> how is it related to this article?

The article is very literally about policies of the Weimar Republic.

Re: 1900s ID Cards That Kept Trans People Safe from Harassment

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lol this and so many other articles aren't even remotely related to development. Literally off topic according to the site guidelines.

Can you point me to the guideline that says stories must be related to development please?

It says under what to not submit: Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Ideological or political battle or talking points. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

Note this is obvious political banter bait - hence I'd argue it falls under the ideological / political battle point.

Re: 1900s ID Cards That Kept Trans People Safe from Harassment

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Actually, it was only once with a cop in recent memory, and yes it was for a traffic violation. I am a frequent international traveller as well. In neither circumstance should what the computer has about my previous genitals come into play. I write that I am a transsexual here for simplicity, but I am not "trans". That is not who I am. I am a woman, not a woman with an asterisk.

> I am a woman, not a woman with an asterisk. I think the information the asterisk conveys is important. For example, I don't think trans women should be allowed to compete against cis women in sports on even terms since it is physiologically unfair.

Sounds like moving goalposts, however: If you're talking about a pre-operative trans woman, whose body is still riddled with testosterone, I would agree with you.

Re: 1900s ID Cards That Kept Trans People Safe from Harassment

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There is a field in state IDs and US passport files for previous names. It is ostensibly there for maiden names or fraudsters. Countless times it has outed me as a transsexual, and causes me to face harassment from cops or ICE agents.

On the flip side, it would be much easier to change identities if you didn't have to list previous names which would be heavily abused by criminals, etc.

Criminals, on occassion, fail to comply with the law.

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post #21

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lol this and so many other articles aren't even remotely related to development. Literally off topic according to the site guidelines.

Can you point me to the guideline that says stories must be related to development please?

> On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting.

> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Ideological or political battle or talking points.

There's some overlap between hackers and people interested in the history of gender politics and sociology, but I'd say that something like this is closer to an "ideological or political battle or talking point".

I read and enjoyed the article, voted up the submission, etc, but I think that the argument that it's technically off-topic has merit.

Re: 1900s ID Cards That Kept Trans People Safe from Harassment

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post #10

Seems like Hacker News is being co-opted by people with an agenda. I see more and more of these off-topic articles popping up on the front page

lol this and so many other articles aren't even remotely related to development. Literally off topic according to the site guidelines.

Arguably this subject is just as interesting as other things (for example timekeeping in calendars) where attempts at computer (or pre-computer) recordkeeeping intersect with human realities.

Re: 1900s ID Cards That Kept Trans People Safe from Harassment

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Can you point me to the guideline that says stories must be related to development please?

> On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Ideological or political battle or talking points. There's some overlap between hackers and people interested in the history of gender politics and sociology, but I'd say that something like this is closer to an "ideological or politi…

Thanks - I read the article and I'm getting downvoted to hell for pointing out the blatantly increasing amount of political articles here.

But seriously, these posts are better suited to reddit than here. I'm not even arguing that this is a bad article or anything, but it's pretty much the definition of off topic imo.

Re: 1900s ID Cards That Kept Trans People Safe from Harassment

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I'm curious, what are you doing that cops are looking up your information so often? Is this from being pulled over for traffic violations? I'm struggling to think of the last time I had any interaction with someone who wanted to see an ID from me. Maybe I just don't get out often enough ;-)

Actually, it was only once with a cop in recent memory, and yes it was for a traffic violation. I am a frequent international traveller as well. In neither circumstance should what the computer has about my previous genitals come into play. I write that I am a transsexual here for simplicity, but I am not "trans". That is not who I am. I am a woman, not a woman with an asterisk.

That would seem to depend on one's definition of "woman". Is yours somehow the definitive one?

Re: 1900s ID Cards That Kept Trans People Safe from Harassment

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On the flip side, it would be much easier to change identities if you didn't have to list previous names which would be heavily abused by criminals, etc.

It would? I wonder.

You are both right. If there was a transsexual exception to this field, I just KNOW that some criminals would abuse it, to the detriment of those of us who actually need this protection.
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