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Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by _justinfunk »

lettergram wrote: post #2

I think this is interesting, but I'm having trouble seeing how it'll be used. Personally, when I want to do things like this - I roll my own custom solutions because I want more control. Given that, I guess I'll be giving it a shot (although I think Firebase in general is super over priced)

For what sort of applications is it super over-priced? I'm using the realtime database to build out an app, and if I start scaling my current (beta) usage by 1000x, I'm still only getting monthly bills of $100 or so.

Fear based question: are there applications (hopefully mine) that would scale in an economic way? And there are other use-cases that wouldn't scale?

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Post by maxerickson »

phpencil wrote: post #22
jannes wrote: post #16

So in how many years is Google going to shut down Firebase? It was an acquisition and they don't tend to keep those running for long.

Firebaser here! We've been investing pretty heavily in the platform so I think we will be around for a while. Worth noting that YouTube, Double click and Android were all Google acquisitions too!

Those all provide space for ads. Does Firebase have a roadmap for providing advertising space?

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by greydata »

maxerickson wrote: post #42
phpencil wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firebaser here! We've been investing pretty heavily in the platform so I think we will be around for a while. Worth noting that YouTube, Double click and Android were all Google acquisitions too!

Those all provide space for ads. Does Firebase have a roadmap for providing advertising space?

AdMob: https://firebase.google.com/docs/admob/admob-firebase

Also Firebase has a free tier but it does cost money https://firebase.google.com/pricing/

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Post by joshuamorton »

adam12 wrote: post #38
mg74 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And is it anymore than other big corporation? That pages lists 24 products, which doesn't seem that much to me. There have been plenty of stories about retired products at FB, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, etc. Im not disputing that Google does this, but ever since Google Reader was stopped this has become a stock comment on basically every HN discussion on Google products (other than search & ads) and has long ceased to…

> And is it anymore than other big corporation? I don't think hk__2 is promoting another big corporation.

I don't think hk__2 was promoting Google.

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by Mithorium »

adam12 wrote: post #39

What kind of revenue should you be earning from a popular app on Firebase to justify the cost of using Firebase (for an indie developer). It looks great, but I'm afraid I won't be able to afford it. I'm currently researching open source solutions such as Parse.

I haven't used it much but from the pricing page it seems affordable enough. There is also a calculator at the bottom for big apps where you can estimate how much it will cost for the plan at scale

https://firebase.google.com/pricing/

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Post by lucideer »

mg74 wrote: post #34
hk__2 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it’s so common Wikipedia has a dedicated category for them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Discontinued_Google_a...

And is it anymore than other big corporation? That pages lists 24 products, which doesn't seem that much to me. There have been plenty of stories about retired products at FB, Amazon, Apple, Microsoft, etc. Im not disputing that Google does this, but ever since Google Reader was stopped this has become a stock comment on basically every HN discussion on Google products (other than search & ads) and has long ceased to…

in jannes' and hk__2's defence, that Wikipedia category page looks very incomplete. I'm sure the number is far higher than 24.

Perhaps it's HN apophenia but Google's record of discontinuance does not seem insignificant - it is valid for anyone to be skeptical of their ability to maintain any newer product in the medium term.

That said, I think anyone who's followed Firebase closely since the acquisition should have reasons to have more confidence in their commitment in this one particular case.

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Post by interstitial »

mg74 wrote: post #28
jannes wrote: post #16

So in how many years is Google going to shut down Firebase? It was an acquisition and they don't tend to keep those running for long.

This knee-jerk-ism is tiresome. There are plenty of products that Google has retired, and plenty of products that Google has continued to invest in. Just like any other big corporation. (acquisition still running, top of my head: Google Docs, Android, YouTube, DoubleClick)

It's actually refreshing. The cheerleading-era is over (finally). FANG-exits are bad for everyone in the long run, and increasingly in the short run. I hope SV gets a grip on that.

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by srcmap »

hk__2 wrote: post #30
mg74 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This knee-jerk-ism is tiresome. There are plenty of products that Google has retired, and plenty of products that Google has continued to invest in. Just like any other big corporation. (acquisition still running, top of my head: Google Docs, Android, YouTube, DoubleClick)

Well it’s so common Wikipedia has a dedicated category for them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Discontinued_Google_a...

The list forgot "Google Desktop Search" - One of my favorite google product.

I like it so much that I even found a old copy to install on windows 10. 6 years after it is discontinue and still much more useful and much faster than windows 10's search bar.

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