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Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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post #16

So in how many years is Google going to shut down Firebase? It was an acquisition and they don't tend to keep those running for long.

Firebaser here! We've been investing pretty heavily in the platform so I think we will be around for a while. Worth noting that YouTube, Double click and Android were all Google acquisitions too!

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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I think this is interesting, but I'm having trouble seeing how it'll be used. Personally, when I want to do things like this - I roll my own custom solutions because I want more control. Given that, I guess I'll be giving it a shot (although I think Firebase in general is super over priced)

Use cases vary with your app need, but the Halfbrick (fruit ninja etc) case study might help: https://firebase.google.com/downloads/Halfbrick_Case_Study.p... - we worked with them during the alpha testing and I think their approach will work for a lot of apps.

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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To me it seems like Firebase essentially supports the cancer of the (app/software) industry:

Creating/buying an app, making it popular and drawing every last penny out of it while pissing off the core users who helped to make it popular and then letting it die. Rinse and repeat.

It helps you piss off the core/current users a little less to draw out the process as much as possible and make more profits, but the result is the same.

Using optimization strategies and software like Firebase disconnects you from the user base as you turn your users into the product. Of course this would come from Google who are experts at it. They get away with it though, because their software is great and there are few alternatives, but that's not the case in the app market.

/rant

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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> reward users who are likely to make in-app purchases

It's nothing new, but I still find it amusing how much the IAP model has borrowed from the marketing handbook of narcotics dealers.

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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I think this is interesting, but I'm having trouble seeing how it'll be used. Personally, when I want to do things like this - I roll my own custom solutions because I want more control. Given that, I guess I'll be giving it a shot (although I think Firebase in general is super over priced)

It really depends on the application. Certainly, everyone love control, but there is a trade off between control and cost. Firebase prediction is simply a simple implementation for some simple use cases, which are plenty.

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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I've played with Firebase but have been exploring GraphQL services recently. Initially http://www.graph.cool/ and https://scaphold.io/

Graph.cool just released their development framework so I may investigate.

I realise Firebase and GraphQL are very different beasts but I think they serve the same market. It would be good to see Firebase at some point offer a GraphQL interface but the data structures are very different.

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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post #16

So in how many years is Google going to shut down Firebase? It was an acquisition and they don't tend to keep those running for long.

This knee-jerk-ism is tiresome. There are plenty of products that Google has retired, and plenty of products that Google has continued to invest in. Just like any other big corporation.

(acquisition still running, top of my head: Google Docs, Android, YouTube, DoubleClick)

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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To me it seems like Firebase essentially supports the cancer of the (app/software) industry: Creating/buying an app, making it popular and drawing every last penny out of it while pissing off the core users who helped to make it popular and then letting it die. Rinse and repeat. It helps you piss off the core/current users a little less to draw out the process as much as possible and make more profits, but the result…

If you're pissed at predictive modeling being used for apps, I assume you're incensed at predictive modeling being used in general marketing, where it's been in use for many decades?

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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post #28
post #16

So in how many years is Google going to shut down Firebase? It was an acquisition and they don't tend to keep those running for long.

This knee-jerk-ism is tiresome. There are plenty of products that Google has retired, and plenty of products that Google has continued to invest in. Just like any other big corporation. (acquisition still running, top of my head: Google Docs, Android, YouTube, DoubleClick)

Well it’s so common Wikipedia has a dedicated category for them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Discontinued_Google_a...
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