I take such claims with a huge grain of salt on the web. YOU serve the Javascript. YOU can change it at any time to phone home what I wrote. No point in trying to change it with the Web alone - that's how it's designed. The server must be trusted at all times.
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#122The whole idea of "cloud computing" is innately terrible on virtually every level. Those willing to entrust their data and the integrity of their data to any third party are either not very informed or not very smart(especially given the virtually daily reports of hacks, data breaches, and corporate malfeasance). This is especially true for word processing, which even the lowest capacity machines have the capability…
Put your actions where your mouth is. Make the experience of local files better than the cloud and then we can talk.
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#123The whole idea of "cloud computing" is innately terrible on virtually every level. Those willing to entrust their data and the integrity of their data to any third party are either not very informed or not very smart(especially given the virtually daily reports of hacks, data breaches, and corporate malfeasance). This is especially true for word processing, which even the lowest capacity machines have the capability…
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#124The whole idea of "cloud computing" is innately terrible on virtually every level. Those willing to entrust their data and the integrity of their data to any third party are either not very informed or not very smart(especially given the virtually daily reports of hacks, data breaches, and corporate malfeasance). This is especially true for word processing, which even the lowest capacity machines have the capability…
The odds of you losing your hard drive and flash drive in a house fire are significantly higher than the odds of you losing data on S3.
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#125The whole idea of "cloud computing" is innately terrible on virtually every level. Those willing to entrust their data and the integrity of their data to any third party are either not very informed or not very smart(especially given the virtually daily reports of hacks, data breaches, and corporate malfeasance). This is especially true for word processing, which even the lowest capacity machines have the capability…
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes and no :) I did indeed not implement OT, but it's also a true story that I would create a Google Doc and share it, nobody knows what to write, I type a sentence, and my classmates delete it as a joke, to mess with me :) But yeah, feedback on the collaboration is welcome. Do you think editing one sentence with multiple people is necessary, and if so why? And on the other end of the spectrum, Word-style edit reques…
I for one welcome this decision. I would perhaps limit the locking to one sentence at a time (which may split into several after editing) rather than a paragraph, and with an optional timeout for inactivity. I am a big fan of open source alternatives to Google and Facebook (see Qbix). Do you mind if I contact you?
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#127The whole idea of "cloud computing" is innately terrible on virtually every level. Those willing to entrust their data and the integrity of their data to any third party are either not very informed or not very smart(especially given the virtually daily reports of hacks, data breaches, and corporate malfeasance). This is especially true for word processing, which even the lowest capacity machines have the capability…
This is exactly the problem we're trying to solve, though: https://www.airbornos.com/docs/security
> Entrusting your data and your capacity to work to a third party should be avoided unless you have absolutely no other choice.
I sympathize with this concern, although in some cases, being able to read and edit documents from your phone, and collaborate on them, is very useful, and that requires some kind of cloud service. But I would very much like to implement things to alleviate these concerns – bulk export/backup, offline access, etc. If Airborn OS ever goes down, I'll make it easier and provide instructions to self-host.
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#128"We (the makers of Airborn OS) won't be able to read them even if we wanted to." I take such claims with a huge grain of salt on the web. YOU serve the Javascript. YOU can change it at any time to phone home what I wrote. No point in trying to change it with the Web alone - that's how it's designed. The server must be trusted at all times.
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#129The whole idea of "cloud computing" is innately terrible on virtually every level. Those willing to entrust their data and the integrity of their data to any third party are either not very informed or not very smart(especially given the virtually daily reports of hacks, data breaches, and corporate malfeasance). This is especially true for word processing, which even the lowest capacity machines have the capability…
> especially given the virtually daily reports of hacks, data breaches This is exactly the problem we're trying to solve, though: https://www.airbornos.com/docs/security > Entrusting your data and your capacity to work to a third party should be avoided unless you have absolutely no other choice. I sympathize with this concern, although in some cases, being able to read and edit documents from your phone, and collabo…
Not being able to read and edit documents from your phone when the cloud locks you out of your document is also a concern (above and beyond all the concerns about security, privacy, and not being in control of your own data).
>Imagine you're working on a Google Doc when, seemingly out of nowhere, your ability to edit the online file gets revoked. What you see instead is an error message indicating that you've violated Google's terms of service.
>For anyone who stores work in the cloud, suddenly being unable to access your data — especially due to a terms of service violation — may sound scary. And it's really happening to some people, according to reports on Twitter. Rachael Bale, a wildlife crime reporter for National Geographic, said Tuesday that a draft of her story was "frozen" by Google.
>Others have reported similar errors.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/10/31...
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes and no :) I did indeed not implement OT, but it's also a true story that I would create a Google Doc and share it, nobody knows what to write, I type a sentence, and my classmates delete it as a joke, to mess with me :) But yeah, feedback on the collaboration is welcome. Do you think editing one sentence with multiple people is necessary, and if so why? And on the other end of the spectrum, Word-style edit reques…
I for one welcome this decision. I would perhaps limit the locking to one sentence at a time (which may split into several after editing) rather than a paragraph, and with an optional timeout for inactivity. I am a big fan of open source alternatives to Google and Facebook (see Qbix). Do you mind if I contact you?