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That should be a minimal number of cases, reduced further by having a big clear one click unsubscribe option. It always amazes me the business that make unsubscribing difficult. That is the real way to get placed in spam.
Does anyone trust the unsubscribe link in apparent spam, though?
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#82"double opt-in" is a term I'm used to hearing in a pejorative way from the pro-spam side. The anti-spam side calls it "confirmed opt-in" which I think is a more accurate description.
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#83Honest question here, does anyone actually want to receive newsletters? I don't think I've ever set foot in the 'Promotions' tab in my Gmail account, other than to delete everything in it.
I read Javascript/Node/goweekly.com newsletters in their email format. The Phaser.io newsletter is another. I think you're more the outlier than the norm.
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#85Not a flippant response: Curious why this isn't the default mode of operation: - Business sends spam - Gmail users mark spam as spam - Gmail starts putting all emails from business as spam for all Gmail users - Business fails - New businesses don't send spam I can't imagine Gmail being in bed with spammers since Gmail gets paid when spammers pay Gmail to put spam on top of all your emails, not when spam is in your em…
You don't spam from mybiz.com
You spam from mybizmail.com, mybizmarketing.com, mybizoffers.com, etc.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's the thing, though. As a user, if I start getting your mailing list emails because someone else decided to sign me up and there was no confirmation, I'm going to mark it as spam.
That should be a minimal number of cases, reduced further by having a big clear one click unsubscribe option. It always amazes me the business that make unsubscribing difficult. That is the real way to get placed in spam.
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#87Not a flippant response: Curious why this isn't the default mode of operation: - Business sends spam - Gmail users mark spam as spam - Gmail starts putting all emails from business as spam for all Gmail users - Business fails - New businesses don't send spam I can't imagine Gmail being in bed with spammers since Gmail gets paid when spammers pay Gmail to put spam on top of all your emails, not when spam is in your em…
New domains are cheap. You don't spam from mybiz.com You spam from mybizmail.com, mybizmarketing.com, mybizoffers.com, etc.
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#88For my fellow mail server administrators: * 205.201.128.0/20 * 198.2.128.0/18 * 148.105.0.0/16 Those are the ranges you'll want to add to your blacklists.
Blacklisting would be pretty irresponsible, greylisting maybe.
In MailChimp's case, the only thing that greylisting would accomplish is delaying the amount of time I wait to get their spam^We-mails.
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#89I'll be leaving MailChimp because the cost outstrips the value as our list has grown.
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One workaround is to use disposable email addresses when signing up to anything online, like https://forward.cat
Why not spamdecoy.net? It does the same thing and you never give your real email to anyone (though forward cat is open source so it's probably ok), and you don't have to set up anything before you use the temporary email.
Curious about this - how can you have an 'open-source' service? I'm not compiling or running the software, and I have no idea what their software is actually doing because there's no way to verify that it's the same as what's been open-sourced...