The concept of schizophrenia is dying

Post by mercer » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 8:30 AM UTC

kosma wrote: post #17

A significant chunk of schizophrenia-diagnosed patients have already been chipped away; it turned to be autism spectrum disorder instead. I wouldn't be surprised if other such corrected diagnoses followed, gradually dismantling the schizophrenia itself altogether.

Post by AstralStorm » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 8:34 AM UTC

gscott wrote: post #14

tcj_phx wrote: post #8

I think a good case can be made that many of these "mental disorders" are actually metabolic problems. There are many causes behind an individual's metabolic problem that leads to schizophrenia/dementia/psychosis/(edit3: depression)/etc... Sometimes people are malnourished. The B-vitamins are important cofactors for metabolic activity. An old/new treatment for "schizophrenia" is Vitamin B3 [0]. My girlfriend's treatm…

Doctors are only allowed to give medications that treat a certain disorder. Experimental herbal treatments are not going to resolve a real mental disorder... you can try some vitamins but no medical professional is going to stake their medical license on it. Both of my parents had schizophrenia and it was a real hell.

Post by mercer » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 8:37 AM UTC

mattmanser wrote: post #25

RHSman2 wrote: post #15

I’d suggest that not taking a drug (weed/lsd/mushrooms) that alter ones perceptions of our very existence is a good way of staying mentally sound. If you take ten 16 yr olds, allow them to experiment, 1-2 will drop off the world, 2-3 will have major, life changing changes to the way they view life (border line changes in said spectrum) and the rest handle it fine although with a significant change in lifestyle. As so…

What a load of crap. My home town was in the middle of nowhere and a port. A lot of people I know experimented. Like 50 people in the periphery of friends etc. And hundreds of people in the years above and below. Never heard of a single one that had problems. 50%? You're ignorant and alarmist.

Post by chris_wot » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 8:48 AM UTC

adammunich wrote: post #19

RHSman2 wrote: post #15

I’d suggest that not taking a drug (weed/lsd/mushrooms) that alter ones perceptions of our very existence is a good way of staying mentally sound. If you take ten 16 yr olds, allow them to experiment, 1-2 will drop off the world, 2-3 will have major, life changing changes to the way they view life (border line changes in said spectrum) and the rest handle it fine although with a significant change in lifestyle. As so…

How do you mean? Most folks I know who regularly use marijuana aren't close to anything I'd call schizoaffective. Those who I know whom have gone off the deep end so to say, seem to have had other troubles in life which compounded to become too much to handle for them.

Post by mattmanser » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 8:53 AM UTC

mercer wrote: post #26

mattmanser wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a load of crap. My home town was in the middle of nowhere and a port. A lot of people I know experimented. Like 50 people in the periphery of friends etc. And hundreds of people in the years above and below. Never heard of a single one that had problems. 50%? You're ignorant and alarmist.

Your anecdote and needlessly aggressive comment do make a very compelling argument. But in all seriousness: can you explain why you feel so strongly about this? EDIT: the person I responded to edited their comment to make it 'milder'.