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Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by Sylos »

noncoml wrote: post #17

Here is my honest brutal “apology”: I wouldn’t pay more than a couple of cents to use your service. If you want to monetize it find a way to allow nano-payments. You are not adding as much value as you think.

Yeah, there's so many free video editor programs available that can do this just as well.

They might not be cut to do exactly that, so there's a bit of a learning curve in comparison to this service, but still, especially for something as optional as making memes, I'd rather waste half an hour learning how to do it in a video editor than pay $1 for each video.

Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by hossbeast »

Cyphase wrote: post #60
mirimir wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, and Mirimir has no credit cards :( I used to argue for Bitcoin, but at $6K that's crazy. However, a EZPass-like token funded with cards, cryptocurrencies, money in the mail, etc. That would be cool.

> I used to argue for Bitcoin, but at $6K that's crazy. Well, Bitcoin may not be good for micropayments, but that's not the reason; you don't have to have integer numbers of bitcoin, you can have 0.00016666 bitcoins (~$1 at $6k/BTC).

Lightning Network, coming soon to a blockchain near you.

Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by [deleted] »

newen wrote: post #53
duiker101 wrote: post #19

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One dollar is something you could afford. And if you can't/don't think it's of enough value then the watermark version is good too for sure. And if you are a content creator that needs lots of them then the 10$\month will be fine. Let users pay with their wallet. Not everyone would know how to do this in some graphics software so there is a value.

It doesn't matter if I can afford it... I can afford to spend $500 too. Doesn't mean I'm going to spend it on just anything. Making a meme on a website is barely worth the time I spend doing it. The $10 seems reasonable if I make a ton of memes and it's a good website though. The $1 is just ridiculous and they should just take that option out purely because it changes the dynamics as to how you view the website. Char…

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Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by bartread »

shmerl wrote: post #64

As usual, greed slows down progress.

Greed?

It's a startup posting on Hacker News about how they're trying to build a business, which is right in the bullseye of the Hacker News schtick as far as I can tell.

Since when has it been greedy to try and make a living, even doing something random and frivolous? The world needs random and frivolous things.

Regardless, I thought it was an interesting experiment.

Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by vortico »

noncoml wrote: post #17

Here is my honest brutal “apology”: I wouldn’t pay more than a couple of cents to use your service. If you want to monetize it find a way to allow nano-payments. You are not adding as much value as you think.

I disagree. If I spend 15 minutes using this service, and if I believe the service offers something others don't (I don't know if this is the case---I haven't tried it), then I've just achieved something I couldn't do otherwise in that 15 minutes. If it saved me even 5 minutes of my time compared to another service/software, I'd value that at $1-5 depending if I was at work or using it during my free time that I could have spent on something else fun.

Now, getting me to pull out a card or log into PayPal is an uncomfortable, high-mental capacity activity, which I might not want to do during my free time. That's the real problem behind internet micropayments.

Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by SolarNet »

vintageseltzer wrote: post #58
SolarNet wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are angry - guy who shops at Ikea twice a weak - corporations steal from them, the government is corrupt, and basic human rights continue to erode in this country. Many of them don't have a dollar to spend participating in the modern web because they are too busy paying for basic human rights, like healthcare, information, and clean water. I would say this to your face. I would say what he said to your face. F…

> Fuck off with your tone policing [0] of the downtrodden. Oppression makes people angry, if you don't want people to be angry like that then stop oppressing them. Take a breath and relax. No one is oppressing you. I simply ask that you adhere to this community's guidelines and use a civil tone.

It's not about anyone oppressing anyone here. My reference to oppression was as a society and in general, not to this comment chain. It's about you claiming that being angry about oppression - specifically the dismissal of that oppression as valid - is for some reason disqualifying of the arguments contained with in. It's a fallacy, it's called tone policing, and you are doing it.

Re: Letting users skip our paywall if they wrote an apology

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Post by bartread »

mango1900 wrote: post #44

This might get downvoted, but let me play devils advocate... the $1 is too cheap. You don’t value my time if you’re making me whip out my credit card and go through the painful process of checking out for transacting only a dollar from me. You’re also extremely downplaying the value of your product. if it was only worth a dollar, you would likely not be building a startup around it :) Most people don’t know how much…

I'm inclined to agree with this. Like you say, increase the price and offer more value: there's a $10 subscription, but how about a $10 one-off, which allows me to create as many videos as I like for the next two weeks, or next month? I'm sure there are probably other - perhaps more interesting/creative - ways you could offer more value if you spent some time thinking about it.

Also, offering payment options that don't require me to fill in a form with my credit card details for yet another frigging website. I hate to recommend them in some ways - because they've caused me aggro so many times with transactions larger than a few hundred quid - but PayPal might be a good option here.

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