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Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

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Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

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Post by deedubaya »

jacquesm wrote: post #35

If Apple does not want their devices to be used as intended until an embargo date has passed they should keep them on premises. Once the device is out of the gates the secret is out as well. NDA's are very effective when you are talking about documents and adults. As soon as you're talking about devices and/or kids NDA's are ineffective because anybody that spots the device can post a picture without any recourse by…

> In the video, which has since been deleted, Peterson shops at Santana Row before meeting her father, Ken Bauer, for pizza at an Apple cafeteria in Cupertino. Bauer pays for their meals with an unreleased iPhone X, telling the cashier that he worked on the phone’s wireless payments feature.

This all happened on Apple's campus, mentioned in the second paragraph. Maybe read the article before commenting?

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

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Post by nikanj »

jacquesm wrote: post #35

If Apple does not want their devices to be used as intended until an embargo date has passed they should keep them on premises. Once the device is out of the gates the secret is out as well. NDA's are very effective when you are talking about documents and adults. As soon as you're talking about devices and/or kids NDA's are ineffective because anybody that spots the device can post a picture without any recourse by…

The video in question was filmed on Apple campus, i.e. on premises.

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

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Post by otterley »

jacquesm wrote: post #35

If Apple does not want their devices to be used as intended until an embargo date has passed they should keep them on premises. Once the device is out of the gates the secret is out as well. NDA's are very effective when you are talking about documents and adults. As soon as you're talking about devices and/or kids NDA's are ineffective because anybody that spots the device can post a picture without any recourse by…

The device was on the premises. The daughter was visiting Apple HQ and filmed her father using it there.

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

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Post by notheguyouthink »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #22
TrickyRick wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did you expect? You have the choice of refusing to sign and thereby working somewhere else.

Except you don't. No matter where you work, the situation is the same. Your options are to smile and sign, or start your own company. And the latter isn't practical for most of us.

What's your ideal solution? I can't imagine a world where employers just let employees do whatever they wanted with trade secrets... am I missing something you're trying to say?

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

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Post by djrogers »

dpark wrote: post #25
Pica_soO wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well at least this was for a reason. Remember that one guy they fired for a bad decorated apartment? You got life a representative lifestyle- so designer cloths, designer furniture- else apple does not want to associated with you. IKEA is very very close to crossing a line there.

> Remember that one guy they fired for a bad decorated apartment? No. What are you talking about?

Sarcasm folks... GP complained about it being a 'lifestyle' thing.

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

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Post by grzm »

dijit wrote: post #17

Feels like someone has an agenda, this is the 10th time I've heard this story and it has exactly the same information. Father told/showed daughter prototype phone in breach of an NDA that I know he signed if he had access to that hardware. Daughter felt really proud of superstar daddy and took to the internet to show off. Apple has three recourses, 1) Sue the employee to the fullest extent covered under the NDA. My e…

> "Feels like someone has an agenda, this is the 10th time I've heard this story and it has exactly the same information."

This is the nature of a lot of journalism these days, with many outlets either (a) reiterating what's in a press release or (b) reporting what has already been reported elsewhere. This happens with plenty of stories, even without an agenda.

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

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Post by exabrial »

Sad, Apple has indeed lost it's way. Old Apple would have capitalized on any press. Tim Cook is the Steve Balmer of Apple; right now they're still making money off of legacy. Jobs demanded quality and usefulness, not silly touchbars, half-witted protocol implementations, and removing of essential ports (ethernet, headphone jacks, etc). The market is ripe for another commercially supported Unix-based hardware/software outfit to take over and give people what they really want.

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

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Post by frandroid »

notheguyouthink wrote: post #39
dijit wrote: post #17

Feels like someone has an agenda, this is the 10th time I've heard this story and it has exactly the same information. Father told/showed daughter prototype phone in breach of an NDA that I know he signed if he had access to that hardware. Daughter felt really proud of superstar daddy and took to the internet to show off. Apple has three recourses, 1) Sue the employee to the fullest extent covered under the NDA. My e…

Can someone explain why you're down voting this person? His/her comments seem very reasonable, am I missing something? I hate that HN lets you downvote without an explanation. edit : And now I'm being down voted for asking a question!? Wtf is going on.. I'm trying to get information here..

My guess is, the downvotes are for "This is a non-story", while it jumps to the top of HN.

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

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Post by CodeSheikh »

This scenario is pretty much applicable for any private corp. across the nation or globe. Every company has their own rules and regulations around the secrecy of new products before the launch in order to stay competitive. The reason this news story is picking up extra traction is because a) it involves Apple and b) some people are trying to justify the idiocy of this teenager using innocence. This guy should be grateful that Apple is not coming after him with a lawsuit that he cant even dream of defending.
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