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Lots of people disagree on the exact type of equality humanity should be aiming for.
Specifically the NAZIS.
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> Also the man carrying the flag looked nothing like your typical Neo-Nazi. He was literally carrying a Nazi flag. That looks exactly like a Neo-Nazi. > Is this similar to how Antifa attacks supporters of the evil Yamika wearing "Nazi" Ben Shapiro in Berkeley? I can't speak for anyone but myself. I never apply that N-word to someone I merely disagree with. I reserve it for people who literally parade around in public…
> He was literally carrying a Nazi flag. It's possible that he was a paid actor. It's not unheard of. Seeing people's inability to address this possibility proves it would be an effective tactic. IMO, he looks more like he works for the FBI than a Neo-Nazi, but YMMV. > That there are people willing and comfortable doing this makes me sad. I feel sad for those people as well. I have not met any in my life, but from wa…
It includes a member of the Nation Socialist movement. You know - the Nazis. If he’s just an outside agitator, then he successfully conned the organizers to the point they listed him on the brochure.
It’s not a hoax. This is real.
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Please point me to posts on those subreddits calling for a bloody revolution and the killing of the bourgeoisie? There's been this new meme circulating on right-wing circles that if you are not a card-carrying alt-righter then you must be - by necessity - Che Guevara's second coming. It's pretty disingenuous, and quite silly to be honest.
No, there's a meme among normal people that if you violently riot and attack people and property when you don't get your way politically, you're a nuisance to democratic society and have more in common with the Red Guard than soldiers who stormed the beaches in WWII.
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Please point to where you think they're advocating bloody revolution, genocide or ethnic cleansing of white people. I'll be waiting patiently.
Since we've already shattered Godwin's law, I might as well reply. Hitler didn't call for the genocide of Jews originally, he just talked and wrote about how much he thought Jewish Supremacy was a problem. Swap Jews for white people and you have Antifa.
WOW, the cognitive dissonance is so strong, you'll blow a gasket when you finally decide to be honest with yourself and admit you are part of the problem.
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Please point to where you think they're advocating bloody revolution, genocide or ethnic cleansing of white people. I'll be waiting patiently.
Since we've already shattered Godwin's law, I might as well reply. Hitler didn't call for the genocide of Jews originally, he just talked and wrote about how much he thought Jewish Supremacy was a problem. Swap Jews for white people and you have Antifa.
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"But but but Antifa are the real facists/racists" Give me a break.
Antifa and Neo-nazis are both a scourge on our body politic. But since pretty much everyone I know agrees about the neo-nazis and their ilk, I feel a much greater urgency to call out Antifa and its ilk.
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Antifa is prejudiced against fascists, and for good reason.
Yeah, that's the travel brochure. From observing them where I live in San Francisco they seem to be violent against anybody right of center and free speech advocates (who may not be right of center). They are also prejudiced against whites in the same way anti-semites are prejudiced against Jews, just swap Jews for white people in their narrative.
(The vast majority of antifa are white, btw)
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> guarantee that all sides can say whatever they want The thing is - the Nazis can say whatever they want. No-one is obliged to give them a platform to do that. Which means you actually want to modify it to > guarantee that all sides can say whatever they want [and be heard] Which is an entirely different kettle of fish and something we don't have currently (and never will, really, whilst there is an imbalance in mon…
I'm not saying anyone is obliged to give them a platform. I'm saying that maybe we, as a society, shouldn't be so quick to call for bans of certain views, or for using our power as consumers to pressure companies to remove such things. It starts with Nazis, and ends with e.g. people on HN saying that Twitter should censor the president. Which at the very least, shows that there is some kind of slippery slope here. Th…
Oh come ON.
> I'm not saying anyone is obliged to give them a platform. > using our power as consumers to pressure companies to remove such things
Those two are contradictory.
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Antifa and Neo-nazis are both a scourge on our body politic. But since pretty much everyone I know agrees about the neo-nazis and their ilk, I feel a much greater urgency to call out Antifa and its ilk.
Your cognitive dissonance is simply astounding.
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Yeah, that's the travel brochure. From observing them where I live in San Francisco they seem to be violent against anybody right of center and free speech advocates (who may not be right of center). They are also prejudiced against whites in the same way anti-semites are prejudiced against Jews, just swap Jews for white people in their narrative.
You should probably check your biases. (The vast majority of antifa are white, btw)