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Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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Case in point. I thought I read bolts (volts?) sometimes put themselves into reverse and accelerate while off+charging. I wanted to paste a link, but found this article instead. It looks like this safety issue is by design. (Also, CR says the handling is “choppy” on uneven pavement, which matches my old lemon): http://www.chevybolt.org/forum/#/topics/7778?page=1 “On this rainy morning while turning to park in a stall…

I've noticed this plenty: "Hitting a large bump may also disengage Regen, which will feel like the car is actually speeding up (since you are expecting it to decelerate)." But that's not a design fault, you're essentially using a "weaker brake" to stop, then you go over a large bump which overpowers the brake for a second. Even real brakes have that issue, but they "catch" quicker than the regen-only. I just don't dr…

No, the point is that the car decides on its own that the "weaker brake" will not do anything, which surprises the user.

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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Yes, Larry, you are special. <3

Actually a more serious reply. I'm not special at all, anyone living in a rural area ends up with a pickup. I need to stock pile gas at my place for the chainsaws and the chipper and the log splitter, etc. I usually have 25 gallons when I'm "full". The gas cans leak a little, do you want that in your nice car? Nope, that's what a pickup is for. In rural areas it's normal to get stuck. I pull people out of the ditch a…

> I'm not special at all, anyone living in a rural area ends up with a pickup

You are special (i.e. part of the minority). Somewhere between 60 and 80% of people live in cities/urban areas in the US. As you said yourself, a truck is a tool with uses where it is critical but there are many where it is unnecessary. The original post you replied to just said that trucks aren't needed by most people, not that they're never needed and nothing of what you've said has argued against this.

You and the person you're ranting against/accusing of lack of empathy are probably 100% in agreement.

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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Actually a more serious reply. I'm not special at all, anyone living in a rural area ends up with a pickup. I need to stock pile gas at my place for the chainsaws and the chipper and the log splitter, etc. I usually have 25 gallons when I'm "full". The gas cans leak a little, do you want that in your nice car? Nope, that's what a pickup is for. In rural areas it's normal to get stuck. I pull people out of the ditch a…

> I'm not special at all, anyone living in a rural area ends up with a pickup You are special (i.e. part of the minority). Somewhere between 60 and 80% of people live in cities/urban areas in the US. As you said yourself, a truck is a tool with uses where it is critical but there are many where it is unnecessary. The original post you replied to just said that trucks aren't needed by most people, not that they're nev…

We're old friends - it's ok :)

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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post #291

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I've noticed this plenty: "Hitting a large bump may also disengage Regen, which will feel like the car is actually speeding up (since you are expecting it to decelerate)." But that's not a design fault, you're essentially using a "weaker brake" to stop, then you go over a large bump which overpowers the brake for a second. Even real brakes have that issue, but they "catch" quicker than the regen-only. I just don't dr…

No, the point is that the car decides on its own that the "weaker brake" will not do anything , which surprises the user.

The car doesn’t decide... physics does. The regen peddle is still engaged, it’s the jolt that overpowers the regen. It’s just physical brakes recover better from that jolt than regen.

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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> I'm not special at all, anyone living in a rural area ends up with a pickup You are special (i.e. part of the minority). Somewhere between 60 and 80% of people live in cities/urban areas in the US. As you said yourself, a truck is a tool with uses where it is critical but there are many where it is unnecessary. The original post you replied to just said that trucks aren't needed by most people, not that they're nev…

We're old friends - it's ok :)

I had to go digging to figure out who otterly is. He's correct, we are old friends.

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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Agreed. Even if I were going to spend that much on a car, it wouldn't be this car at that price point. I got a lightly used Fiesta ST for around $15k, and I'm very happy with it and probably wouldn't even want the Bolt for the same price (even if it's more practical)

Is it is manual transmission? I heard the auto is junk, and avoided.

Yeah, they actually only make the ST in manual.

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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A related Q is how do first responders safely deal with crashes of electrical vehicles which may have a risk of electrocution at best and a full on metal fire.

Same way they deal with internal combustion engine crashes and gasoline fires and explosions: training and preparedness.

A metal fire is not the same as a petrol one much harder to put out

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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Yes. Same with Tesla's default settings, and with any Toyota hybrid.

I drive a Toyota hybrid, and have never even remotely considered relying on regenerative braking to even slow my vehicle. If I want to slow down, I press the brake. If there's any slowing because of regenerative braking, I have never noticed it.

You're right now that I think a little harder about it. I used to have a 2006 Prius, and though it did charge the battery while coasting, it wasn't anything like Tesla-style one-pedal driving. I was in the habit of shifting to B while coasting down the hill where I lived, which is why I have the memory of regen braking while not pressing the brake pedal.
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