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Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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You can pull trailers with cars, provided they have enough torque. When I was a kid, my dad pulled our pop-up trailer with a 1974 Pontiac Ventura (GM 5.7L V8 engine). Just last month I regularly saw relatively large trailers being pulled by relatively small cars when I was in the UK.

> 1974 Pontiac Ventura (GM 5.7L V8 engine) FWIW, that's considered a truck engine, now. Purely from displacement.

It was back then too! :)

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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Case in point. I thought I read bolts (volts?) sometimes put themselves into reverse and accelerate while off+charging. I wanted to paste a link, but found this article instead. It looks like this safety issue is by design. (Also, CR says the handling is “choppy” on uneven pavement, which matches my old lemon): http://www.chevybolt.org/forum/#/topics/7778?page=1 “On this rainy morning while turning to park in a stall…

That seems crazy to disable something the use is expecting in gnarly traction situations. In comparison I've driven our Tesla in heavy rain, snow and regenerative braking has never disabled, although traction control does take over occasionally. Tesla also gradually ramps down the braking to zero at 5mph so it doesn't suddenly disappear.

In my experiences, regen is disabled when ABS is activated

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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If you buy an EV, you should be happy with its range when you buy it. Like laptops and cellphones, that will degrade as all batteries do. But also like laptops and cellphones, when you replace that battery down the road, it is unlikely you'll get an upgrade. You'll get the same range. At least that was the case with my 2013 Leaf with its 85 mile range. I had it in mind that when it came for a new battery I'd get mayb…

There is a company in Arizona that refurbishes battery packs for the Tesla Roadster. There are 2 options, a performance pack that reduces pack weight by 350 lbs. while sacrificing 20% range. Or, a long range pack that gives you 400 miles range. Tesla even makes an upgraded range pack for the Roadster.

I have also seen upgraded battery pack options available for the 1st gen Honda Insight.

Much like internal combustion cars, aftermarket performance parts are usually only geared to more expensive or enthusiast vehicles. In time, I could see battery upgrade options being more common.

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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I am curious how does one go about disposing of an electronic vehicle like this when the time comes - whether from an accident or just EOL'd? Is that included in this price? Or does one need to factor that into the TCO of the vehicle? Given the batteries I'm guessing this requires special attention compared to a combustion engine car.

A related Q is how do first responders safely deal with crashes of electrical vehicles which may have a risk of electrocution at best and a full on metal fire.

They make fun instructional videos of firemen dismantling perfectly good cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFWCM6iJR_w

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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So I used to feel like you do until I moved to the Santa Cruz mountains. A half ton pickup is pretty much required. I have a chevy extended cab, 8 foot bed, gets used all the time for stuff that I couldn't do with a car. In addition to that I have a chevy 3500 HD dually flatbed that gets used as well. It's an entirely different beast, I've hauled 10,080 pounds of base rock in that thing and I still had spring left. I…

Yes, Larry, you are special. <3

Actually a more serious reply. I'm not special at all, anyone living in a rural area ends up with a pickup. I need to stock pile gas at my place for the chainsaws and the chipper and the log splitter, etc. I usually have 25 gallons when I'm "full". The gas cans leak a little, do you want that in your nice car? Nope, that's what a pickup is for.

In rural areas it's normal to get stuck. I pull people out of the ditch all the time, can your car do that?

I have to carry 4 trash cans a mile and a half up the road every week, that's where the trash gets picked up, can your car do that?

I have to haul concrete bags up here all the time, like a pallet at a time, can your car do that?

All of you folks who live on the coast and do tech work seem to have forgotten that there are a bunch of people who are farmers or whatever, who live in rural areas, their needs are different than yours. The idea that they could rent a pickup for the few times a year that they need it just shows that you have no clue what their daily life is like.

And that's why Trump got elected. Get a clue, figure out how the fly over people live and maybe have some compassion for their lot. Or not, enjoy Trump 1.0, you'll get Trump 2.0 until you figure it out.

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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1,000 miles, you're probably covered by the lemon law on that if you just want to return it. I can't say at 1,000 miles I'd not be fuming about a large up-front deposit being asked of me. Amazing. Well, I wasn't going to hand GM any money again anyway, but my slight admiration I had of their Bolt is now gone, so thank you for that. GM is pulling their usual cheap Android vendor that wants Apple prices method I suppos…

I actually could have lemon-lawed it, but once it crossed that line it didn’t have any more trouble until the warranty expired. A few months after that, the driver-side heater went out, and the radio started to fail. The fact that so many things failed makes me think there are significant systemic issues with GM vehicle platforms (and not just individual components). The more I think about the regenerative braking is…

Good god (the heater, radio etc). Definitely sounds like the Bolt was rushed to market, a lot of those things are pretty basic QC issues. One thing going out early might be reasonably acceptable, but I agree with your other posts here, too many things to give the benefit of the doubt on. What did you replace it with?

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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> 1974 Pontiac Ventura (GM 5.7L V8 engine) FWIW, that's considered a truck engine, now. Purely from displacement.

It was back then too! :)

60's/70's cars now vs then are a totally different automobile.

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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Yes, Larry, you are special. <3

Actually a more serious reply. I'm not special at all, anyone living in a rural area ends up with a pickup. I need to stock pile gas at my place for the chainsaws and the chipper and the log splitter, etc. I usually have 25 gallons when I'm "full". The gas cans leak a little, do you want that in your nice car? Nope, that's what a pickup is for. In rural areas it's normal to get stuck. I pull people out of the ditch a…

Everyone forgets how different this country is from Sea to Shining Sea.

A lot of people in the US can live without ever needing a truck.

--and--

A lot of people in the US couldn't live without a truck.

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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Actually a more serious reply. I'm not special at all, anyone living in a rural area ends up with a pickup. I need to stock pile gas at my place for the chainsaws and the chipper and the log splitter, etc. I usually have 25 gallons when I'm "full". The gas cans leak a little, do you want that in your nice car? Nope, that's what a pickup is for. In rural areas it's normal to get stuck. I pull people out of the ditch a…

Everyone forgets how different this country is from Sea to Shining Sea. A lot of people in the US can live without ever needing a truck. --and-- A lot of people in the US couldn't live without a truck.

^ This guy gets it.

Re: Chevy Bolt: the First Practical, Mass-Market Electric Vehicle

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It was back then too! :)

60's/70's cars now vs then are a totally different automobile.

Agree, I used to own a ‘76 GMC car with the same motor. Thing was a tank, hit a 14pt buck doing 70mph dead on and was able to drive away from the accident with just a dented front end, but otherwise fine.
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