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Re: Facebook apologizes after wrong translation sees Palestinian man arrested

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You can be arrested in the US if you were to post a legitimate threat

The bar for arrest is lower than that. You can be arrested for posting rap lyrics that somebody else interprets as a threat.

Do you have a specific case in mind? I would have thought it would require specifically the police to interpret it as a threat.

Re: Facebook apologizes after wrong translation sees Palestinian man arrested

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post #64

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The bar for arrest is lower than that. You can be arrested for posting rap lyrics that somebody else interprets as a threat.

Do you have a specific case in mind? I would have thought it would require specifically the police to interpret it as a threat.

It only requires the police to be ambivalent or in the mood to cuff someone. I do know of 2 such cases. One in the sensitive climate following the Boston bombing. Another that was revenge, like a SWATting but with regular police.

Re: Facebook apologizes after wrong translation sees Palestinian man arrested

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post #51

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Spanish speaking people are definitely _not_ a minority down here in Miami hehe.

Minorities are usually defined in terms of power rather than sheer numbers.

The mayor of Miami, Tomás Pedro Regalado was born in Cuba, and 3 of the 6 city commissioners were either born in Cuba or born to Cuban parents. The city commissioners are:

* Wifredo "Willy" Gort - born in Cuba, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Gort

* Ken Russell - born in Coral Gables, FL, http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/a... . Does not appear to have a Cuban connection.

* Frank Carollo - born in Miami of Cuban-born parents, http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/a...

* Francis Suarez - born in Miami. His father Xavier Suarez, Miami’s first Cuban-born mayor in 1985, http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/a...

* Keon Hardemon - born in Miami, "scion of one of Liberty City’s most politically active families and the son of a Miami police officer", http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/a... . Does not appear to have a Cuban connection.

I think that helps demonstrate local majority political power.

Re: Facebook apologizes after wrong translation sees Palestinian man arrested

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bar for arrest is lower than that. You can be arrested for posting rap lyrics that somebody else interprets as a threat.

Do you have a specific case in mind? I would have thought it would require specifically the police to interpret it as a threat.

Something like this? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/aug/29/former-marine-...

Re: Facebook apologizes after wrong translation sees Palestinian man arrested

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Are you implying this was part of some cyber-phrenological attack to poison the "predator"? Or something? Pardon my ignorance, as my attempts to understand just what the hell cyber phrenology is all about is a bit stymied by the fact that this theory reads like a William Gibson novel...

The Butterfly War describes a theory of meta data warfare that forces a predator to change its behavior and target people it's been trained not to target. In this case, the connection between Silicon Valley and national security apparatuses are so hypervigilant, everyone in the anaylsis pipeline accepted the meta data that arrested this guy to be sufficient. The Butterfly War teaches you how to put anyone you want in…

I'm with you so far. What I'm wondering is if you're saying this Palestinian guy was "put into the pipeline" by someone performing such a metadata attack, since he seems at first glance to fit the profile of someone the security apparatus would target anyway.

In any case, it's an intriguing tactic.

Re: Facebook apologizes after wrong translation sees Palestinian man arrested

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This headline got a chuckle out of me, not gonna lie.

Because you don't see any situation where you are unnecessarily harassed and could face arrest or death from a poor interaction with the police.

The parent comment wasn't good, but would you please follow the site guidelines regardless? In this case you broke the one that asks: "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Facebook apologizes after wrong translation sees Palestinian man arrested

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Because you don't see any situation where you are unnecessarily harassed and could face arrest or death from a poor interaction with the police.

Translation: don't have a dark sense of humor about things. It's not because I lack empathy, you dolt. Obviously everyone of us is far removed from that risk. It just reads like something that could have been an Onion article: ridiculous and exasperating. Enjoy being a stiff, and go fuck yourself.

Ai yai yai, we ban accounts that break the rules like this, so would you please read them and follow them when commenting here? Even if another comment was unduly stiff.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Facebook apologizes after wrong translation sees Palestinian man arrested

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Butterfly War describes a theory of meta data warfare that forces a predator to change its behavior and target people it's been trained not to target. In this case, the connection between Silicon Valley and national security apparatuses are so hypervigilant, everyone in the anaylsis pipeline accepted the meta data that arrested this guy to be sufficient. The Butterfly War teaches you how to put anyone you want in…

I'm with you so far. What I'm wondering is if you're saying this Palestinian guy was "put into the pipeline" by someone performing such a metadata attack, since he seems at first glance to fit the profile of someone the security apparatus would target anyway. In any case, it's an intriguing tactic.

I think the correlation is that if the metadata-to-securiry response pipeline is incorrectly targeting people it is already biased against, then this is proof that the pipeline can also incorrectly target the people it is biased to ignore.
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