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Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by bench_soup »

narrowtux wrote: post #306
ignoramous wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This shows how important UX really is. UI can be all glam and shiny, but the software with the most accessible of UX wins, more often than not. I always come back to the example of WhatsApp and how it took on SMS, IM, and emails and won. People claiming WhatsApp went in mobile first are getting it only partially right. WhatsApp defined itself as a replacement for SMS: No login passwords, no chat history, cross platfo…

> cross platform Only mobile, the web version is shitty because it hosts a web server on your phone which is unreliable. And even with that you can only access the web version from one computer and it does not work well on tablets.

Not to mention you get banned from trying to use any unofficial client if your device/OS happen to not be supported.

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Post by suckerburg »

laichzeit0 wrote: post #228

Let's just be frank: If Jobs was in charge, everyone that remotely touched that app would pulled into a room, berated and told how fucking dumb they are, and told to pack their shit and find another job. Remember, he was obsessive about the first calculator app and hand-tuned it to his liking, so it's not hyperbole to suggest that he would be fucking livvid. [1] Asshole, but perfection requires assholes. Apple is reg…

Didn't the iphone 4 antenna issue happen under Jobs? With him claiming you're holding the phone wrong or something like that.

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Post by romanovcode »

silviot wrote: post #255
laichzeit0 wrote: post #228

Let's just be frank: If Jobs was in charge, everyone that remotely touched that app would pulled into a room, berated and told how fucking dumb they are, and told to pack their shit and find another job. Remember, he was obsessive about the first calculator app and hand-tuned it to his liking, so it's not hyperbole to suggest that he would be fucking livvid. [1] Asshole, but perfection requires assholes. Apple is reg…

TIL some people think berating your employees when they do a mistake is a good way to run a company. WOW! It's just so wrong at so many levels, I don't even know where to start. I'll leave a link to this video: https://www.ted.com/talks/brian_goldman_doctors_make_mistake...

I don't think firing people is berating.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by lifeisstillgood »

Thank you ! I have been getting really annoyed with the ios 11 UI. podcast feels like molasses - click the play button on a downloaded podcast - literally count 3 seconds before the UI responds and another before I hear anything

I just assumed it was my phone.

The excellent Working Copy is now non-functional for me.

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Post by jorvi »

ignoramous wrote: post #273
kemayo wrote: post #53

People are talking about "lag" and performance, as if this was a "the system can't handle it!" issue. This is a misleading description. The actual issue is that some developer at Apple screwed up their animation configuration when implementing the calculator redesign, and nobody tested adding more than two numbers together quickly. Multiple failures, none involving system performance. What's happening is: the operato…

This shows how important UX really is. UI can be all glam and shiny, but the software with the most accessible of UX wins, more often than not. I always come back to the example of WhatsApp and how it took on SMS, IM, and emails and won. People claiming WhatsApp went in mobile first are getting it only partially right. WhatsApp defined itself as a replacement for SMS: No login passwords, no chat history, cross platfo…

WhatsApp also won because it did what most tech companies seem to consider antithetical to their purpose: put international customers on equal footing to US customers. So many companies either don't serve or completely gimp their product outside the US, often for no good reason.

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Post by thenickdude »

colanderman wrote: post #32

I'd been considering switching to iOS from Android due to Android's horribly laggy UI. Glad to hear it's just as miserable on the other side of the fence.

In Developer Options, set the animation duration to 0, which kills the animations. It's like having a brand new phone not having to wait for stupid animation fluff to complete.

Take care though, because I've used an app in the past which was broken with animations disabled. I can't remember which one it was, but it relied on an animation completing to trigger an event when a soft button was held down for a certain interval.

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Post by coldtea »

puranjay wrote: post #237
chrisper wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple does not seem to test a lot these days...

Testing is for pussies. Apple is a courageous company. Courageous. Very courageous.

Apple ships several 10s of millions of lines of code across a billion devices.

If they really didn't test at any statistically significant extent, people would really notice it.

Thing is, bugs happen, and no amount of tests will ever squash them completely.

Especially for some small insignificant part of the OS, assigned to 1 or 2 people at most like the calculator.

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Post by whalesalad »

kemayo wrote: post #53

People are talking about "lag" and performance, as if this was a "the system can't handle it!" issue. This is a misleading description. The actual issue is that some developer at Apple screwed up their animation configuration when implementing the calculator redesign, and nobody tested adding more than two numbers together quickly. Multiple failures, none involving system performance. What's happening is: the operato…

Your solutions are a little off the mark. Treating the animation as the problem is merely treating the symptoms.

What needs to happen here is pressing the button needs to immediately register the press elsewhere in the code. The UI animations and the button tap should be decoupled entirely.

Then the user can tap away as fast as their heart desires and only the animations are going to continue on. That’s an easy problem to solve... by doing as you say and aborting them or shortening them.

But you should NEVER have UI animations and effects block your logic path. They should be parallel operations not serial.

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Post by coldtea »

laichzeit0 wrote: post #228

Let's just be frank: If Jobs was in charge, everyone that remotely touched that app would pulled into a room, berated and told how fucking dumb they are, and told to pack their shit and find another job. Remember, he was obsessive about the first calculator app and hand-tuned it to his liking, so it's not hyperbole to suggest that he would be fucking livvid. [1] Asshole, but perfection requires assholes. Apple is reg…

>Let's just be frank: If Jobs was in charge, everyone that remotely touched that app would pulled into a room, berated and told how fucking dumb they are, and told to pack their shit and find another job.

Let's just be frank: there were TONS of BS issues like that under Jobs all the time, regardless of whether he was obsessive about this or that particular app.

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Post by coldtea »

suckerburg wrote: post #312
laichzeit0 wrote: post #228

Let's just be frank: If Jobs was in charge, everyone that remotely touched that app would pulled into a room, berated and told how fucking dumb they are, and told to pack their shit and find another job. Remember, he was obsessive about the first calculator app and hand-tuned it to his liking, so it's not hyperbole to suggest that he would be fucking livvid. [1] Asshole, but perfection requires assholes. Apple is reg…

Didn't the iphone 4 antenna issue happen under Jobs? With him claiming you're holding the phone wrong or something like that.

You mean the iPhone 4 antenna non-issue?

Lots of bugs and issues happened under Jobs, but this was the usual press BS.

The iPhone 4 went on to sell 50 millions of devices or so with that antenna and nobody in the real world had much of an issue with it.

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