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Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by 22c »

kristianp wrote: post #69
MarkSweep wrote: post #63

The calculator in Windows 10 got a similar "upgrade". It now has a loading screen that eats keystrokes. The Windows 7 just launched instantly and took 10% the RAM and threads (seriously, the Win10 calc.exe has 28 threads!) It would be one thing if these companies were making greenfield apps and choose Electron to make their calculator app. But both Apple and Microsoft had perfectly functional calculator apps before,…

Both the lock screen and the start menu have loading delays that eat keystrokes. It seems to be acceptable to the Windows team that this happens.

I used to be able to unlock my computer before the monitor even finished turning on but now there's an annoying delay where I have to press a button, wait for the screen to turn on, then sometimes press another button to activate the password input box, then type in my password. Also I can't for the life of me get rid of "Schedule a Restart" notifications from appearing (and hijacking focus), despite trying all the group policy/registry edits in the book. Yuck.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by boomlinde »

kemayo wrote: post #53

People are talking about "lag" and performance, as if this was a "the system can't handle it!" issue. This is a misleading description. The actual issue is that some developer at Apple screwed up their animation configuration when implementing the calculator redesign, and nobody tested adding more than two numbers together quickly. Multiple failures, none involving system performance. What's happening is: the operato…

> People are talking about "lag" and performance, as if this was a "the system can't handle it!" issue. This is a misleading description.

Lag doesn't necessarily have anything to do with performance. I really don't think people are talking about performance at all. No one would seriously think that a modern smartphone could be dwarfed by a 35 year old calculator in terms of raw performance.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by kemayo »

notatoad wrote: post #188
kemayo wrote: post #53

People are talking about "lag" and performance, as if this was a "the system can't handle it!" issue. This is a misleading description. The actual issue is that some developer at Apple screwed up their animation configuration when implementing the calculator redesign, and nobody tested adding more than two numbers together quickly. Multiple failures, none involving system performance. What's happening is: the operato…

>Conveniently, this should be a trivial fix trivial to fix the bug in the calculator app. not trivial to deploy that fix. this would be a full system update, right?

Yeah, it'd have to be a proper OS update, because it's one of the core apps.

But, also conveniently, iOS 11.1 is in beta at the moment. They just released beta 5 today, so it's not like they couldn't slip a fix for this in before the final release if they wanted to.

Whether they will or not, well...

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by michaelmrose »

threeseed wrote: post #144
adventured wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The giant is pulling apart at the seams. It would take an obsessive, aggressive, near manic product personality to stay on top of something that large and keep it running at an extremely high level of quality. Tim Cook isn't that leader (which pretty much everybody understood on day one). Apple is seeing very serious problems across numerous aspects of their business, from product decisions to supply chain.

This is revisionist drivel. Every year it's always "Apple is dying" as they continue to siphon money from every industry they touch. They are about to push a tonne of users into a higher price point with the iPhone X. The Apple Watch is an unquestionable success. We are on the precipice of seeing an ARM based MacBook based on their incredible work with A-series chips. They are also strategically very well placed with…

Do we even have sales figures for the apple watch. All I see is made up numbers and guesses.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by notatoad »

kalleboo wrote: post #137
itbeho wrote: post #61

Remember when Steve Jobs introduced Snow Leopard as a stability/maintenance release without much in the way of new shiny features? Maybe Apple can revisit that idea. Aside from bugs, don't even get me started on the giant fucking labels in the iOS 11 mail app telling me which folder I'm in....

That's what both El Capitan and High Sierra have been sold as on the Mac, so it's not as if Apple has forgotten the tactic. On iOS they have too much competition from Android to take a step back like that.

Android's last couple releases have been more focused on internals and performance as well - For Android 8 the standout user-facing features are new emoji and they changed the notification shade colour from dark grey to white.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by frankzinger »

blowski wrote: post #129
teej wrote: post #55

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I hate to be this guy but Steve Jobs would have fucking eviscerated the team that produced this. The first time he used the calculator and got 24 instead of 6, he would’ve walked straight to whoever wrote the software and gotten it fixed. There’s no one at Apple who can do that anymore.

And I get to be that guy in response. I don’t like the sanctification of Steve Jobs. He oversaw plenty of bugs - “antennagate” being the most famous, but there were plenty of others as well.

Antennagate surfaced in 2010. Jobs had been ill with cancer for many years by then. In April 2009 he had a liver transplant. He resigned in early 2011. I think we should probably give him a break on Antennagate.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by [deleted] »

Tehnix wrote: post #182
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #3

As soon as I upgraded my 6s to 11, I saw performance seriously degrade. It takes -seconds- to bring up the iMessage editor. My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade. Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray com…

> My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade. That was actually recently debunked by Futuremark https://www.futuremark.com/pressreleases/is-it-true-that-iph... . Important excerpts found at the bottom of the page: > Our benchmarking data shows that, ra…

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Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by Confusion »

veidr wrote: post #6

"Jony wants you to take time and appreciate the simplicity of the slowly dimming animations. Or we’re just using it wrong." Apple has lots of issues like this, in iOS and macOS, where they choose visual appeal over functionality, or where animation impedes usability. This is a pretty sad bug, though. My (very expensive, "high-end") Japanese induction stove has a similar issue. Its capacitive touch controls take just…

Isn't that just a safety feature, so a child's quick fingers won't do anything?

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by michaelmrose »

colanderman wrote: post #35
epistasis wrote: post #21

Almost all of the animations on iOS are about 2x-3x as long as they should be. First off, they look terrible, the slooooooow change from one thing to another. Secondly, they severely impede usability because you have to wait wait wait for 1000ms here, 1000ms there, and another 1000ms there after every action. It's enough to make me want to give up privacy and switch to Android. Soooo pissed at slow animations. 500ms,…

> It's enough to make me want to give up privacy and switch to Android. It's sadly no better on the Android side of the fence either. How many times I've had to wait for the keyboard app to decide to load…

Your are short on memory and the keyboard is being unloaded. The fact that you never have to close apps because the OS will dynamically unload unused apps and restore them is sort of a lie.

Reboot every few days, delete bullshit phone games that just for fun ensure they start quickly by loading every time you start your phone starts along with any other worthless apps you don't actually want or need.

You will no longer have this problem.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by endless1234 »

Nition wrote: post #111
lobster_johnson wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another example, which has existed for as long as I have known, is the spinning number selectors on iOS, used in apps such as Clock for setting alarms or selecting times/dates. The new value doesn't register until the animation completes, so if I set my alarm too fast, it doesn't save: Let's say the alarm is set to 09:00 and I change it to 09:30. So I spin the minute field up to 30 and hit Save. If I do it too quickl…

I find the spinner interface is a bit clunky in the first place as well. I haven't found anything as fast to use as the N9-style circle[1]. [1] http://www.nition.co/2014/08/the-nokia-n9-alarm-clock

That seems quite similar to Android's/material design's current time picker, https://material.io/guidelines/components/pickers.html#picke..., which is such an improvement over scrolly scrolly scroll scroll style mobile time pickers
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