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Re: Robert Scoble: “I apologize.”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Additionally, the Facebook apology was immediately posted after new accusations on TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/20/robert-scoble-has-allegedl...

Aren't those 2 separate problems anyway ? Many people are drunk or even alcoholic without assaulting others.

Right? Always bothered me “but they were drunk, it’s not their fault”

That’s cool. I’ve been drunk before and haven’t ever raped anyone.

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Can't seem to find any details on the extent of his mis-behaviour. Wikipedia page says "sexually assaulted", and that "Sarah Seitz, a sustainability analyst at NASA, replied accusing Scoble of also having assaulted her" Isn't sexual assault a serious crime? Why didn't these women report it to the Police. Or does touching without consent or grabbing someone or trying to grope someone (like our current President is all…

Have you ever looked at the accounts of women who /have/ reported it? If it actually goes to trial basically the defense finds every single thing you ever did and tries to portray you as a slut who was asking for it. If the person is famous people will say you’re lying and trying to get rich out of a settlement. You’re required to repeatedly go over every step of the assault whether it was harassment or rape. They as…

The Stanford case is a really good (and chilling) example of what victims of these crimes can go through. This is the letter the victim read to the rapist at his sentencing[1].

[1]: https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/heres-the-powerful-let...

Re: Robert Scoble: “I apologize.”

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As someone who does not live in the valley, I have to ask... What is wrong with you people? Seriously! Is this news? Man propositioned woman while drunk. REPEATEDLY! OMG does that mean more than once?! Talking about apologizing to "his victims"... was there a crime committed? If you don't call this out for being total nonsense then I call you for being a coward. The rest of the world shakes it's collective head at yo…

Yes, the interaction with Quinn was very obviously criminal sexual assault in the presence of many witnesses (who have confirmed it).

Yep that Quinn thing was assault.

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FWIW, Quinn Norton's post that seemed to set off yesterday/today's spate of accusations happened sometime in the early 2010s. Scoble had announced in 2015 that he was going sober. However, at least one of the accusers has said that Scoble propositioned her (repeatedly) after 2015: https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/20/robert-scoble-has-allegedl...

Hence public announcements and public apologies are too be taken with (at least one) large grain of salt. It's up to his victims to forgive him -- not us.

Wait, what? Why does he need to be forgiven?

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Well, it is sort of weak. But: A) How many actually good examples do we have to draw upon? Most such things are pretty blatant attempts at saving face. This at least has some sincerity to it. B) He isn't justifying, excusing or denying. He did quit drinking already, which is perhaps the most important thing he could do to prove he is taking it seriously that he needs to stop hurting other people. He is fairly realist…

> Amends are really hard to do.

I'd just once love to see one of these abusers make some kind of serious penance. I mean something that costs more than a few words written on a page. Donating x% of their wealth to organizations of the victim's choosing (where x is a fraction large enough to be uncomfortable), entering some kind of monastic or hermetic lifestyle for more than a day or two, committing to X hours of anonymous volunteer labor, resigning their positions of authority and power, retreating from public life.

Occasionally something like this is forced on the perpetrator, but I've yet to see any of them take it upon themselves to take this step. Personally I think an apology is worth about as much as the effort put into it, and this is low effort.

Still, you're right that it's better than most.

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Well, it is sort of weak. But: A) How many actually good examples do we have to draw upon? Most such things are pretty blatant attempts at saving face. This at least has some sincerity to it. B) He isn't justifying, excusing or denying. He did quit drinking already, which is perhaps the most important thing he could do to prove he is taking it seriously that he needs to stop hurting other people. He is fairly realist…

Well it’s years later and frankly at the end of his career. He has no downside to admitting this.

His apology means nothing. He needs to be ostracized, and hopefully this might send a message to anyone else thinking their status and influence means they have sexual power.

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