New law bans California employers from asking applicants their prior salary

Post by TillE » Thu, Oct 19, 2017, 1:27 AM UTC

dnautics wrote: post #316

Swizec wrote: post #202

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As a counterpoint, if it wasn't for all the friendly people on HackerNews and similar places talking about how big their salaries are, I would still be stuck in Eastern Europe happy to write code for $7/hour. The biggest capitalist victory has been convincing people that sharing salary information is impolite. It benefits "the ruling class" in several ways. First it prevents people from realizing they're underpaid an…

It benefits the "ruling class" because it benefits people who know how to negotiate and use information asymmetry, and those people tend to wind up in the "ruling class".

Post by conanbatt » Thu, Oct 19, 2017, 1:29 AM UTC

ThrustVectoring wrote: post #398

icelancer wrote: post #164

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>>But have you thought about why you feel this way? Yes. I don't want to increase my attractiveness regarding a house robbery, as I live well below my means in a developing neighborhood, amongst other reasons. I very much understand the concept of leverage and have no problems privately discussing my salary amongst groups that I trust. That doesn't include the entire Internet.

A lawsuit is a bigger risk than a house robbery, IMO. A big reason why people don't get sued is because they aren't a defendant you can get a lot of money out of. Publicly showing off a top 2% salary or asset level will change that. Like, if you own your house outright, it's often worthwhile to get a HELOC without ever drawing from it. That way, when an attorney tries to figure out if you're worth suing, it doesn't l…

Post by lovich » Thu, Oct 19, 2017, 1:31 AM UTC

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #432

syshum wrote: post #374

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Except for the fact that male and female pay for the same job, and experience level are statistically the same and there is no actual pay gap. The $0.79 on the $1 shit has been debunked a million times yet is still persists for some reason. The last good study I read showed a gap of something like 5% which was in the statistical margin and was largely accounted for by negotiation tactics. For an anecdote I (a male) e…

> The $0.79 on the $1 shit has been debunked a million times yet is still persists for some reason. Because a certain group of people insists that the original $0.77 on the $1 statistic DID control for career choice and the like...even though it didn't. Any claims to the contrary are obviously misogynistic lies continuing the patriarchy. \ eyeroll\ I've always said...if the pay gap really WAS that big, then why would…

Post by conanbatt » Thu, Oct 19, 2017, 1:35 AM UTC

cracell wrote: post #114

geebee wrote: post #60

I'd prefer to see this go in the other direction and make all salary information public. Right now, employers have far more information than employees, and I don't think this law will do much to change that. To me, it's similar to real estate - imagine if only sellers had access to the database of exactly what every house sold for and when, but buyers had to go with unsubstantiated, scattered rumors. Or vise versa. T…

No thank you. My salary is private. I do not want my family and friends to know how much I make. I also have never told a potential employer my salary. I believe it stopped things from going on to the interview stage but the way they took my refusal made me assume they paid under market rate.

Post by xupybd » Thu, Oct 19, 2017, 1:36 AM UTC

cracell wrote: post #114

geebee wrote: post #60

I'd prefer to see this go in the other direction and make all salary information public. Right now, employers have far more information than employees, and I don't think this law will do much to change that. To me, it's similar to real estate - imagine if only sellers had access to the database of exactly what every house sold for and when, but buyers had to go with unsubstantiated, scattered rumors. Or vise versa. T…

No thank you. My salary is private. I do not want my family and friends to know how much I make. I also have never told a potential employer my salary. I believe it stopped things from going on to the interview stage but the way they took my refusal made me assume they paid under market rate.