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Introducing Surface Book 2

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Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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I have a MacBook Pro and have never used thunderbolt. Why is it a big deal / what do you use it for?

I use a single TB3 port to connect two 4K displays, 100W power and all USB devices all through a single cable

And Surface Book 2 will do that just fine. (You're almost certainly not using Thunderbolt but plethora if USB-C alternate modes)

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This is a good example of how Microsoft often does marketing poorly. The text reads like a script for an in-person product launch. On the page it doesn't even make sense "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission – to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more – it’s powerful." What? And then after all of that, you click through to the store and there's no pricing informat…

Yeah it's really frustrating. * this page is an ad copy with very little of interest * the store page ( https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/surface-book-2/8MCPZ... ) has no date, no price and only hints at specs (you can pick a model but have no idea that e.g. the 13.5" i5 is iGP and the i7 is dGPU) * https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-book... has the actual stuff you want, with a detailed sp…

Thanks! Was going wtf at the lack of technical specs in the release. No 32GB model is a bit of a shame, however it's great to see Coffee Lake now giving quad core power to ultrabooks.

I'm hanging for the X1 Carbon with this line of CPU myself; currently on the 1st gen X1C with i7 cpu, and the main issue I have is probably the battery life aside from the 8gb memory. That was the top spec back in 2011, glad I didn't penny pinch. The ultrabook still looks new; love the Lenovo keyboard and trackpoint.

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If you install a decent OS replacing the one it comes with, there won't be any malware (at leat not the kind we knew about)

Reinstalling the OS may be good enough for most people, but you also have to be aware of firmware.

For that, the metal shredder is probably the best solution.

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1) Latency 2) Developing custom hardware that needs to be attached to dev box 3) No rage when the wifi at the airport sucks 4) etc Even though you don't need lots of power, there's plenty of solid and valid reasons why others might.

Exactly: a few reasons. Moreover 1. latency is low enough that people are playing triple AAA video games on AWS for a $1/hr. https://lg.io/2015/07/05/revised-and-much-faster-run-your-ow... 2. Sure, that's a good reason. It had better be spewing out lots of data, though, or again, you might as well process in the cloud. 3. Being able to access your workstation via airport wifi at all is actually a benefit in this case…

> Being able to access your workstation via airport wifi at all is actually a benefit in this case, unless you intend to wheel it around like a suitcase

Did you walk out of a 1980s time warp or something? The workstation in this case carries 1TB of storage and weighs 3.5 lbs. (And it still has wifi in case you need that).

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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This is a good example of how Microsoft often does marketing poorly. The text reads like a script for an in-person product launch. On the page it doesn't even make sense "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission – to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more – it’s powerful." What? And then after all of that, you click through to the store and there's no pricing informat…

Right from the title! What sort of a tagline is this "Surface Book 2, the most powerful Surface Book ever."?

No-one needs to be told that the Surface Book 2 is going to be faster than the Surface Book 1.

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I can't stand when companies say the latest version of a product is "the most powerful one ever". Why would that ever not be the case?

Power is something you want to use less of when constrained by battery life, surely!:)

Efficient would be a better word to use then.

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Talking about the hardware this is a pretty interesting offering. The got the new 8th gen i7 into the display half (which they failed to do for the new Surface Pro which seems like an odd omission). Seems like a solid follow up to the original Surface Book (which I have). In my experience my Surface book is most usable in 'studio mode' (their name for folded back over the keyboard with the display up) and an external…

> They got the new 8th gen i7 into the display half (which they failed to do for the new Surface Pro which seems like an odd omission). 8th gen intel processors were not out when the new Surface Pro released. And they had to release it because it was long overdue since SP4. > On the road my 12" Surface Book is a bit too little screen area and so I use my 15" macbook pro 2015 for that. The 15" version of the surface b…

Thank you!

First, I did not think the MBP was that heavy. But you are absolutely correct. I put it on my scale and it comes in a bit over 4.5 lbs. (I'm attributing the extra weight to the stickers.) So that does make the SB2 faster, better screen, and longer battery life. Could be an expensive realization :-).

I was recalling the article in ars where they were talking about the LTE version [1], which is missing the i7. I suspect I'm the only one who wants a laptop with a decent LTE radio that can take advantage of the increased area to offer something which can pull in even weak LTE signals and work at something resembling full speed. I guess we have to wait for Intel to do some sort of Centrino type deal with an LTE modem manufacturer before we see something like that.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/microsoft-seems-to-h...

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Is this for software development (assuming yes since we're on HN)? I'm currently in the process of making this choice. Looking at Lenovo T470p/Dell XPS 13/15. If I'm doing linux development is it worth even thinking about the surface laptop?

I run an XPS 13 with Ubuntu 16.04 and do software development for a living (so I use the laptop for 10+ hours a day). Let me know if you have any specific questions and I'll be happy to answer... but long story-short, this is the best laptop I've ever touched or owned.

How is the battery life on that combo?

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I didn't say WACOM equivalent; I said WACOM-level. Whether or not it is equivalent is a subjective judgement on the part of the user. Personally, the current stylus input supported by ntrig is sufficient for my particular needs. The ntrig technology Microsoft acquired has been significantly improved since its first implementation, so I think your judgements are perhaps somewhat obsolete?

No, I've been to the Microsoft store and tested out all their new devices. None are on par with even Wacom's Intuos offerings. The Surface Studio seemed especially bad. I'm sure their digitizers work great for the average user, but Wacoms are primarily devices for pros. None of the Surface stuff is at that "level," unless you're comparing them to other (IMO bad) PC integrations.

Some pros tend to disagree with that assessment

https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2016/10/26/the-surfac...

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Google's PixelBook could be a good option if you don't have any need for Windows. It will run Linux easily via crouton.

Pixelbook does not have a fan. Will that be okay? IDEs suck up a lot of resources and tend to heat up a lot. I was thinking about Pixelbook till someone raise this up. what's your opinion?

Using the Xiaomi Notebook 12 inch without a fan. Surprisingly, 4GB with 2 NVME drives is good enough for me. This is switching from xps 13 i7 with 8GB ram.

My one supports NVME in both slots so I don't know what other people on the internet who are saying the 12 inch doesn't support NVME are on about. I have the Kaby Lake version.

I have a 8GB swap which I guess is fast enough as its on the second NVME.

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