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Introducing Surface Book 2

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Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Looks not too bad, but I'm kinda interested in a Ryzen based laptop. And for that .. there's basically nothing yet (a Lenovo that is based on ~outdated~ tech just came out, a HP is announced and seems limited in its RAM options/potentially limited to single-channel and crippling the APU and a monster of a gaming laptop with desktop CPUs that is basically not usable if you ever want to carry it or use it without a power supply).

I like the design, but the price is far too high - for me - and I'm neither a fan of Intel nor NVidia.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Looks like a proper MacBook Pro replacement HW wise, but the OS is not one I would use for work.. =/ So attached to OSX for the past 6 years and cannot see me using a windows OS for work , but at home only for gaming. The new MacBook Pro has many flaws. Not sure how this compares in real use for it?

Gaming, the world has changed and this generation of Apple users has way more Gamers then what they had before.

Why do they continue to ignore Gamers on the Mac Platform.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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post #77
post #21

Looks like a proper MacBook Pro replacement HW wise, but the OS is not one I would use for work.. =/ So attached to OSX for the past 6 years and cannot see me using a windows OS for work , but at home only for gaming. The new MacBook Pro has many flaws. Not sure how this compares in real use for it?

I recently left my macbook with the TSA after a frantic sprint through security. I was stuck with a windows 7 PC for the week. Armed with Putty and a browser, I only missed the touchpad of my macbook. I do most of my work in Jupyter and in vim. It's rather liberating to realize you are not tied to one ecosystem. My point is I thought I would never be productive without my mac but that simply wasn't true. I suppose I…

> I recently left my macbook with the TSA after a frantic sprint through security. I was stuck with a windows 7 PC for the week.

Care to elaborate more on what really happened?

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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This is a good example of how Microsoft often does marketing poorly. The text reads like a script for an in-person product launch. On the page it doesn't even make sense "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission – to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more – it’s powerful." What? And then after all of that, you click through to the store and there's no pricing informat…

Yeah, that guy who does the Surface keynotes is too good for them. His jokes are hilarious and but the audience never gets it, and his more ad-lib salesman-type pitches are very strong. But when he has to read the scripts and work in Microsoft's phrases it feels awkward. I hope he finds more fulfilling work.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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post #21

Looks like a proper MacBook Pro replacement HW wise, but the OS is not one I would use for work.. =/ So attached to OSX for the past 6 years and cannot see me using a windows OS for work , but at home only for gaming. The new MacBook Pro has many flaws. Not sure how this compares in real use for it?

I've been trying Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) and it's a great idea, I can see my self moving to windows (from Linux) in the next months when they fix the slow IO. The combination would work great for me, a terminal with Linux tools + a nice windows 10 experience (nice fonts, devices support) .

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It appears to max out at 16GB for the same reason as the rMBP (current Intel processors are limited to 16GB of LPDDR3).

Many Lenovo Thinkpads and HP ZBooks, the mobile workstation lines, support 64GB of ECC memory when paired with a Xeon. And 64GB of non-ECC when using a Core processor. Hell even the "ultrabook" workstation from HP, the ZBook Studio supports 32GB of ram [0]. One has to trade capacity for speed. 16GB is such a wall now, it makes me think Intel crippled their latest chips because they are too good. [0] http://www8.hp.co…

> Many Lenovo Thinkpads and HP ZBooks, the mobile workstation lines

The SB is not a workstation. It uses 15W U CPUs…

> One has to trade capacity for speed.

DDR4 trades battery for capacity, that's why "ultrabooks" concerned about the balance of weight and battery life are limited to 16GB: intel does not support lpddr4.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

#88

Looks not too bad, but I'm kinda interested in a Ryzen based laptop. And for that .. there's basically nothing yet (a Lenovo that is based on ~outdated~ tech just came out, a HP is announced and seems limited in its RAM options/potentially limited to single-channel and crippling the APU and a monster of a gaming laptop with desktop CPUs that is basically not usable if you ever want to carry it or use it without a pow…

I don't think there are laptop Ryzen variants out yet, thus the only "laptops" that exist use desktop Ryzen variants and are squarely aimed at gamers.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

#90
I bought a SB last year and returned it after a couple of days since it was full of problems with the GPU and pen[1].

The machine was beautiful and both the keyboard and trackpad felt amazing, but even if my unit was defective the pen and tablet experience were poor compared to something like an iPad Pro.

Also the display was really sharp in terms of resolution but suffered from an insane amount of ghosting while scrolling[2].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XLVgpD-Dtc

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcOwjj2UWtw

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