My Google job was tedious and pointless • Hacker News Board

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

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Post by mc32 » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 6:24 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #30

maxxxxx wrote: post #18

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I don't think an executive should ever complain about an election. They should focus on making their company successful and a good work place.

What if the result of an election hinders their ability to be successful and create a good work place? I think there is a fair debate to be had about where the line should be drawn, but pretending that politics doesn't exist if you don't talk about it is deluded. For example, Google employs a good number of immigrants. After the election many of them would have been worried about their future in the country. Wouldn't…

But all elections have winners and losers in the business sphere. In prev admins, nuclear power lost, arguably coal lost, telecomms reg. so are saying it's okay to complain loudly (rather than lobby) about the changes in a political manner?

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

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Post by jrs95 » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 6:24 PM UTC

sbierwagen wrote: post #148

jrs95 wrote: post #103

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Except there was absolutely no talk during the campaign or after the election about cancelling H1B visas...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/...

How dare he want an immigration policy that benefits American workers before corporations and foreign workers! It's so immoral that I'm literally shaking!

/s

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

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Post by untog » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 6:24 PM UTC

jrs95 wrote: post #175

cromwellian wrote: post #154

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Except that there was, in Bannon's famous "there are too many Asian CEOs" radio interview with Trump, they floated the idea of cutbacks on legal immigration, some of which would impact current immigrants seeking to bring over family members. Moreover, if you were a legal immigrant on an H1-B, and you happened to have dual nationality with one of the "bad" countries on Trump's list, you quickly found out that you coul…

> the idea of cutbacks on legal immigration, some of which would impact current immigrants seeking to bring over family memebers So what? They don't have some sort of magical automatic right to be here just because one of their relatives is. >If this had been "We need a total shutdown of JEWS", would you be so flippant with people's concerns about the campaign talk? If Jewish immigrants had been engaging in the amoun…

> If Jewish immigrants had been engaging in the amount of terrorism we've seen in Europe recently...yes, I would be just as flippant.

Do you think that white people in America engage in too much mass shooting, and consequently should have additional regulations applied to them regarding gun ownership?

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

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Post by scott_s » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 6:25 PM UTC

dcow wrote: post #98

aresant wrote: post #40

While the fluffy headline promises a revelation about Google, this article is actually a poignant lament on the future of work automation. The piece's author holds a humanities degree in Psych/Neuroscience. I point that out because while we've accepted that blue collar jobs are/were "going to be automated" or "going overseas", there's still a pervasive trope that an undergraduate degree provides some protection and i…

And yet people seem more interested in bickering about politics than addressing the root of the problem.

Politics is how peaceful societies address problems.

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

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Post by jxramos » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 6:25 PM UTC

nxsynonym wrote: post #83

bistro wrote: post #6

Wouldn't working as a recruiter be tedious at any company?

Agreed. I see this as a problem with HR and recruiting in general, not a Google problem. The only reason this is news at all is because Google is in the title. Replace that with any other company name and it just describes another position that could either be automated or outsourced.

that's spot on about piggybacking off of Google fame, funny how far riding another's coattails can take things.

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

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Post by peoplewindow » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 6:25 PM UTC

cromwellian wrote: post #31

Recruiting is outsourced at many companies. I'm not sure why this person thought it would be a hugely interesting job. Perhaps if they were an engineering major and were working on ways to automate recruiting searches, or improve the false positive/false negative rates, it would have been interesting, but it doesn't sound like this person was hired for anything but to man the phones. From that standpoint, it seems li…

They already tried to automate this job long ago and failed, actually.

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

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Post by dang » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 6:26 PM UTC

georgiedown wrote: post #101

s73ver_ wrote: post #61

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There's a HUGE difference between "a president you don't like" and "a president who's entire platform was removing people like you from the country".

If the majority of the country doesn't want you in, then tough titty. I would not stay somewhere where I'm not welcome.

We've banned this account for violating the site guidelines. Would you please not create accounts to do that with?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

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Post by jrs95 » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 6:26 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #183

jrs95 wrote: post #175

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> the idea of cutbacks on legal immigration, some of which would impact current immigrants seeking to bring over family memebers So what? They don't have some sort of magical automatic right to be here just because one of their relatives is. >If this had been "We need a total shutdown of JEWS", would you be so flippant with people's concerns about the campaign talk? If Jewish immigrants had been engaging in the amoun…

> If Jewish immigrants had been engaging in the amount of terrorism we've seen in Europe recently...yes, I would be just as flippant. Do you think that white people in America engage in too much mass shooting, and consequently should have additional regulations applied to them regarding gun ownership?

No, and if you took a closer look at the stats you'd see that it's not even true that they're disproportionately responsible for mass shootings or terrorism generally.

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

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Post by sealthedeal » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 6:27 PM UTC

My fiance is a recruiter at Google, and while she still has issues with work or has a complaint every now and then, she embraces her job and is a top performer. She finds pride in finding people that normally wouldn't think they could get a job at Google, and push them through process, and once they get hired she takes satisfaction that yes, she in fact did help change their life and or career.

Anyone can make the claim that there job sucks, or the company they work for tries to brainwash them, or maybe they feel overqualified for what they are doing. If you have an issue with your job you change it. I applaud the author for making the change, but I find it terribly unprofessional and kind of childish that he would rant about his previous employer when they didnt do anything wrong to him...

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

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Post by cromwellian » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 6:27 PM UTC

fav_collector wrote: post #132

s73ver_ wrote: post #75

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This narrative that only engineers deserve to have interesting and fulfilling jobs needs to end. It's nothing but elitism, and adding the "#firstworldproblems" doesn't do anything to help your cause.

I read the OP post as "not everyone deserves an interesting and fulfilling job" rather than "only engineers deserve an interesting job"

Neither, I wasn't saying what people deserve, only that so many in this country suffer in far worse jobs, and don't get editorials in the Washington Post about it. My mother worked for decades as a Cashier at Safeway, and before that, as a telephone operator connecting calls at AT&T. Her actual talent: singing, she wanted to be a singer.

By comparison, this HR job was orders of magnitude better. My mom didn't have healthcare provided by her job when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, she had almost no vacation, we lived paycheck to paycheck.

There's no voice given to these people, the truly suffering masses, in the news media. Instead, we hear the suffering of the upper middle class, who has a cushy deskjob, free gourmet food, massages, vacations, bonuses, stock, but finds their job boring. Why are we reading this story in the Washington Post and not the story of the person working 60 hours a week and living at the poverty line?

It's a question of priorities for me, not who deserves what. Every human deserves a fulfilling life, but in the grand scheme of things, the suffering visited on the author of that editorial is one of angst, not basic survival, and he's being given a microphone for grievances of being pampered with benefits.

If a trust fund baby complained he's bored with life because he still has to show up for boring meetings with his trustees, I'm sure we can find some sympathy for his ennui, but first I have to work my way through all the headlines of Puerto Ricans suffering, or those who make my iPhone.