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Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

#171
I've been interviewing with Google, and by my count I've interacted with about 5 different recruiters for two roles. It's strange how specialized they are, and the communication overhead seems high.

> Google HR uses the TextExpander program, which populates email templates with salutations, job description links and questions.

If it's any consolation, gmail's reply suggestions were frequently sufficient on the candidate's side.

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

#172
post #44

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This post is being downvoted and I wish it wasn't, because it's a great example of the exact issue at hand. You might say that it is overly emotional, or too reactionary, or that the tone isn't appropriate, but think - really think! - what it would be like to wake up one morning to the unexpected shock that a President has been elected on the very possible platform of kicking you out of the country and ruining the li…

Except, that's the point - people are overly emotional. All this waking up the next morning and the world is different is such a stretch. Nothing has changed.

> Nothing has changed.

Except is has, and continues to change. These changes are affect real people, people in my family, in profoundly negative ways. That you choose to ignore others doesn't mean nothing has changed. Only that you are ignorant of what is happening.

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

#173

To be fair to Google (can’t believe I said that), sounds about as painful as similar role at another large company would probably be. Most expect their employees to drink some Kool-Aid (one of the side benefits to being a contractor/mercenary is being able to exist somewhat outside that world).

I have family that works at Google and I remember a group of their friends reporting they very much preferred the switch to consultant for Google rather than Google employee. They wanted to be outside the internal political bubble. From what I recall the distaste surrounded a lot of the performance review song and dance and promotional squabbles.

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

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post #105

I worked at Google in a more technical role but I sympathize with this guy. The culture was awful and empty. It was sugar-coated candies and colors and happy, happy, happy like it was meant for a kindergartener. The politics were thick and covered everything. Executives got on stage at a company meeting and cried about the election. It was a cult, and not in the good way that a startup can sometimes be, but in a stal…

I've noticed a TON of conversation on HN lately about how emotional/hysterical anti-Trump people are. Aside from the obvious fallacy (being emotional doesn't make you wrong), I think it's part of the anti-anti-Trump phenomenon: most people can't bring themselves to actually defend Trump but they are so annoyed by liberals that they devote their political energy to mocking and minimizing his critics. My take: bad thin…

No, but overstating their badness is itself bad. That is the issue. I didn't vote for Trump, I don't agree with the vast majority of things he's done, and I will vote for anyone running against him. But the astoundingly lengths of hyperbole people will go to would lead you to believe he is literally a reincarnation of Stalin and that if we don't act now the US will sink into a sea of flames, such as this gem[0] from someone who won't even use their real account, but uses a throwaway: "You might need a little emotional maturity. Crying isn't there[sic] end of the world, an idiot with nukes is."

I don't know how much more hyperbolic you can get than saying Trump is literally going to end the world. There is plenty of real things to criticize him about, you gain nothing by overstating things to the state of idiocy.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15493189

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

#175
post #103

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Except there was absolutely no talk during the campaign or after the election about cancelling H1B visas...

Except that there was, in Bannon's famous "there are too many Asian CEOs" radio interview with Trump, they floated the idea of cutbacks on legal immigration, some of which would impact current immigrants seeking to bring over family members. Moreover, if you were a legal immigrant on an H1-B, and you happened to have dual nationality with one of the "bad" countries on Trump's list, you quickly found out that you coul…

> the idea of cutbacks on legal immigration, some of which would impact current immigrants seeking to bring over family memebers

So what? They don't have some sort of magical automatic right to be here just because one of their relatives is.

>If this had been "We need a total shutdown of JEWS", would you be so flippant with people's concerns about the campaign talk?

If Jewish immigrants had been engaging in the amount of terrorism we've seen in Europe recently...yes, I would be just as flippant.

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

#176

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As a non-American I'm so glad I don't work in an country where politics seems to create such hysteria in the workplace. I know Trump was a big unexpected shock to many but come on... crying executives, I mean what the hell

>"As a non-American I'm so glad I don't work in an country where politics seems to create such hysteria in the workplace." Your America bashing is completely uncalled for and unwarranted. It's pretty sad that you don't realize that executives getting on stage and crying in front of employees the day after an election is a complete aberration. This was was not and is not commonplace.

> Your [...] you

That's unduly personal, and therefore uncivil, regardless of how wrong someone else is. Unfortunately this kind of thing appears frequently in your comment history. Would you please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and follow the rules when commenting here?

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

#177
post #90

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I'm going to guess you aren't in the US on a visa. "Nothing has changed" is such an absurdly wrong way of looking at the issue. Say you're stood in the street alone. That's normal. Now there's a man stood in front of you with a knife, and he's looking at you threateningly. But he hasn't stabbed you! Nothing has changed. Your body is still unpunctured, so why are you worrying? Throughout his campaign, Trump made overt…

>immigrants You missed the "::cough:: illegal ::cough::" Otherwise, please cite a video/audio source of him actually saying he wants to kick out all the legal immigrants.

“Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12...

Trump's threats were far from contained to illegal immigrants.

Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

#179
post #62

While the job doesn't sound like it involves "cool things that matter" and paints a pretty believable picture of working at a large corporation, I do find it interesting that this was published by thr Washington Post. Being owned by Amazon, a direct competitor to Google on many fronts (the war for cloud computing market share is/will continue to be huge), it seems suspicious that this is truly unbiased coverage. It s…

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Re: My Google job was tedious and pointless

#180
post #169

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> I'm not talking James Damore "I'm just expressing an alternative opinion" low boil misogyny. That kind of thing is unacceptable. Why is his cultural questioning of potential causes for gender disparities bad, yet we're supposed to avoid falling into an echo chamber for other issues? If issues can't be questioned, doesn't that itself form an echo chamber?

Mostly because the language he used and the way he tried to promote his viewpoint was construed as hostile by almost every woman working at Google, or at least a significant number of them. The choice isn't b/w being an echo chamber and expressing views which make coworkers uncomfortable for their gender.

Idk, I didn't see an issue with it. He discussed the issue on an internal forum designed for such discussion using plenty of citations and sociological terminology. The fact that it made some people uncomfortable shouldn't mean it shouldn't be discussed.
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